Crane HI-4E/8-3100 (7-pin module wiring)
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Crane HI-4E/8-3100 (7-pin module wiring)
This is a bit tricky so I will give as much detail as I can. Bike is a 1998 FLHTCU-I and will convert EFI to S&S Super E, Crane Fireball HI-4E (8-3100), single-fire.
Question: The Crane (8-3100) uses the 7-pin "cannon" connector which I plan to change to 8-pin deutsch connector on the harness I put together.
7-pin "cannon" connector (Crane 8-3100)
1-grey
2-red
3-black/white
4-black
5-pink
6-green/white
7-red/white
8-pin ignition module connector (carb, from 1998 FLH Harley Manual)
1- W/BK (coil /rear ) + (engine on/off switch)
2- BK/W (cam sensor C)
3- R/W (cam sensor A)
4- PK (coil /front ) and (Tach)
5- GN/W (cam sensor B)
6- V/W (VOES #1)
7- BK (VOES #2) and to (ground stud)
8- no wire
Cannot find 7-pin to 8-pin adapter here in Japan and would need to order from the states really jacking up the price of an already overly-priced part. 90-94 wiring diagrams that I have seen don't list pin numbers and colors are different from module. I need to know the Harley 7-pin module pin# to position
EVELdave
Question: The Crane (8-3100) uses the 7-pin "cannon" connector which I plan to change to 8-pin deutsch connector on the harness I put together.
7-pin "cannon" connector (Crane 8-3100)
1-grey
2-red
3-black/white
4-black
5-pink
6-green/white
7-red/white
8-pin ignition module connector (carb, from 1998 FLH Harley Manual)
1- W/BK (coil /rear ) + (engine on/off switch)
2- BK/W (cam sensor C)
3- R/W (cam sensor A)
4- PK (coil /front ) and (Tach)
5- GN/W (cam sensor B)
6- V/W (VOES #1)
7- BK (VOES #2) and to (ground stud)
8- no wire
Cannot find 7-pin to 8-pin adapter here in Japan and would need to order from the states really jacking up the price of an already overly-priced part. 90-94 wiring diagrams that I have seen don't list pin numbers and colors are different from module. I need to know the Harley 7-pin module pin# to position
EVELdave
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Any luck?
This is a bit tricky so I will give as much detail as I can. Bike is a 1998 FLHTCU-I and will convert EFI to S&S Super E, Crane Fireball HI-4E (8-3100), single-fire.
Question: The Crane (8-3100) uses the 7-pin "cannon" connector which I plan to change to 8-pin deutsch connector on the harness I put together.
7-pin "cannon" connector (Crane 8-3100)
EVELdave
Question: The Crane (8-3100) uses the 7-pin "cannon" connector which I plan to change to 8-pin deutsch connector on the harness I put together.
7-pin "cannon" connector (Crane 8-3100)
EVELdave
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Sorry for the long delay in posting back but was away for a while. Found two PDF's from Harley, "Ignition Module" -J00066 for & "Ignition Module Adapter Wiring Harness Kit" -J00067 designed for 1983-1990 models.
PDF #J00066 1983-1990 (Original 7-pin module)
1. Blue - Ignition coil negative (-)
2. White - Ignition coil positive (+)
3. Black - Ignition sensor plate connector
4. Black - Ground to battery and or frame
5. Violet - Vacuum-operated electric switch (VOES)
6. Green - Ignition sensor plate connector
7. Red - Ignition sensor plate connector
PDF #J00067 1984-1990 (Late 7-pin Adapter wiring harness/ module wire color)
1. Pink - Ignition coil negative (-)
2. White - Ignition coil positive (+)
3. Black/White - Ignition sensor plate connector
4. Black - Ground to battery and or frame
5. Violet/White - Vacuum-operated electric switch (VOES)
6. Green - Ignition sensor plate connector
7. Red - Ignition sensor plate connector
8-pin Deutsch 1998 FLT Manual (also 1997 Softail) dual fire
1- W/BK engine stop/run switch and (+) on coil
2- BK/W "c" on cam position sensor
3- R/W "a" on cam position sensor
4- PK (-) on coil and tach
5- GN/W "b" on cam position sensor
6- V/W term (+) on VOES
7- BK ground and (-) on VOES
8- blank (no assignment)
Crane HI-4E 8-3100/ 8-3101 have an additional two wires from module for use in Single-Fire only
Brown to the tach
White to the rear coil (-)
Please refer to Crane Cams Hi-4E 8-3100 /8-3101 PDF which shows color codes for single and dual fire configurations
My 1998 FLH (EFI) died yesterday, starts but no spark and went through as much as I could without all the overpriced Harley diagnostic meters to no-avail. Will do the EFI to carb conversion I've peiced together over the year as I'm tired of dealing with compenents I'm forced to repair in a garage and not on the road! When the Magneti Marrelli is in a good mood she's not bad but I would like the extra power out of a Super E and serviceability factor is a big plus when your on a cross-country trip.
PDF #J00066 1983-1990 (Original 7-pin module)
1. Blue - Ignition coil negative (-)
2. White - Ignition coil positive (+)
3. Black - Ignition sensor plate connector
4. Black - Ground to battery and or frame
5. Violet - Vacuum-operated electric switch (VOES)
6. Green - Ignition sensor plate connector
7. Red - Ignition sensor plate connector
PDF #J00067 1984-1990 (Late 7-pin Adapter wiring harness/ module wire color)
1. Pink - Ignition coil negative (-)
2. White - Ignition coil positive (+)
3. Black/White - Ignition sensor plate connector
4. Black - Ground to battery and or frame
5. Violet/White - Vacuum-operated electric switch (VOES)
6. Green - Ignition sensor plate connector
7. Red - Ignition sensor plate connector
8-pin Deutsch 1998 FLT Manual (also 1997 Softail) dual fire
1- W/BK engine stop/run switch and (+) on coil
2- BK/W "c" on cam position sensor
3- R/W "a" on cam position sensor
4- PK (-) on coil and tach
5- GN/W "b" on cam position sensor
6- V/W term (+) on VOES
7- BK ground and (-) on VOES
8- blank (no assignment)
Crane HI-4E 8-3100/ 8-3101 have an additional two wires from module for use in Single-Fire only
Brown to the tach
White to the rear coil (-)
Please refer to Crane Cams Hi-4E 8-3100 /8-3101 PDF which shows color codes for single and dual fire configurations
My 1998 FLH (EFI) died yesterday, starts but no spark and went through as much as I could without all the overpriced Harley diagnostic meters to no-avail. Will do the EFI to carb conversion I've peiced together over the year as I'm tired of dealing with compenents I'm forced to repair in a garage and not on the road! When the Magneti Marrelli is in a good mood she's not bad but I would like the extra power out of a Super E and serviceability factor is a big plus when your on a cross-country trip.
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This coincides with the info from Harley which Crane should have to follow if it is to connect properly. (Please refer to my previous post for references)
Crane HI-4E #8-3100 (7-pin Cannon)
1. Blue(?) - coil (-)
2. Red - coil (+) Run/Stop Switch
3. Black/White - Ignition sensor plate (C terminal)
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4. Black - Ground (optional VOES (-)
5. Violet(?) - VOES (+)
6. Green/White - Ignition sensor plate (B terminal)
7. Red/White - Ignition sensor plate (A terminal)
Brown - Tach
White - Rear Ignition coil (-)
This would indicate that not all 7-pin Cannon and 8-pin Deutsch posts correspond by pin #.
my guess (D=Deutsch / C=Cannon)
C pin 1 to D pin 4
C pin 2 to D pin 1
C pin 3 to D pin 2
C pin 4 to D pin 7
C pin 5 to D pin 6
C pin 6 to D pin 5
C pin 7 to D pin 3
Crane HI-4E #8-3100 (7-pin Cannon)
1. Blue(?) - coil (-)
2. Red - coil (+) Run/Stop Switch
3. Black/White - Ignition sensor plate (C terminal)
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4. Black - Ground (optional VOES (-)
5. Violet(?) - VOES (+)
6. Green/White - Ignition sensor plate (B terminal)
7. Red/White - Ignition sensor plate (A terminal)
Brown - Tach
White - Rear Ignition coil (-)
This would indicate that not all 7-pin Cannon and 8-pin Deutsch posts correspond by pin #.
my guess (D=Deutsch / C=Cannon)
C pin 1 to D pin 4
C pin 2 to D pin 1
C pin 3 to D pin 2
C pin 4 to D pin 7
C pin 5 to D pin 6
C pin 6 to D pin 5
C pin 7 to D pin 3
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