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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 09:49 AM
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get some idea`s from the experienced builders here,HD techs at the dealers (not all of them,but the majority) are notorious for putting together builds with parts that don't work very well together
 
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Zack1
Thanks everyone I realize I might be in a little over my head. Lol so bear with me if I done a 777 (from what I have read this is a solid cam with a high lift that is also super strong. Also the 888 is a little to radical for what I want) what should I have done to my head for that cam? Or what head should I get?

I'm not necessarily doing this for the power but I want to pull up somewhere and they ask what motor work I have cause it has a thunder lope and a clean crisp sound. I don't know how to explain it but everyone on here knows the sound and that feeling you get when that bike pulls up next to you.
Here we go again; another poor soul more interested in how his bike sounds than how it runs. I have said this in other posts when I hear this kind of talk. I hang out at Mike Lozano's shop nearly every second Saturday of each month for his "dyno day"; no tuning but for $30 he will put a bike on the dyno, do a couple of pulls and print the chart for the owner. I wish I had $30 for every guy that rolled a bike that sounded like a fuel dragster onto the dyno and watch the guys jaw drop when he saw a chart that showed much less TQ/HP than he expected. Then watch that same guy's jaw drop again when a bike that sounded "normal" roll up 110/120 numbers.

Sorry OP but you shouldn't be concerned about what that other bike sounds like when it pulls up next to you. Show him your tail lights and he will be asking about motor work at the next light.

Listen to Kirby or Scott and work with whoever gives you that "warm and fuzzy".

$500 is a good price for a set of SE heads but, and Scott or Kirby will tell you the same, you can't answer your head question until you know what heads you are buying and what cam you have chosen. Be advised that Scott or Kirby may also suggest a different cam set based on their experience and I would venture to say that either of them has built more motors than the guys you are talking to.
 

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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 10:17 AM
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really miss seeing mike lazano out at the track,he always had some very innovative stuff
 
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 12:46 PM
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I'm sorry that I'm not interested in taking my bike to the track. Sure I would like to put up some impressive numbers up on a dyno but that's not my main purpose for this build. It may sound stupid to you but it's what I want. I want to do motor work to change the sound of the bike.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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I "get" wanting the lopey sound but if ya want any performance to go along with the "sound" ya will need a real builder and some cash. Ya don't just throw parts together to get a hot motor. If ya don t care about performance and just want the "sound" find a cam with the most overlap and forget all the goodies. The options are endless but ya need to know what ya want and can afford first. Planning is the key.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 01:04 PM
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Here's a news flash for you Zack1 ole boy. As long as you have a fuel injected Twin-cam motor you will never achieve that "loping motor sound" that you unrealistically crave. Doesn't happen, so go sell your new WG and find yourself a good Evo motored bike that has a carb and build that up.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Zack1
I'm sorry that I'm not interested in taking my bike to the track. Sure I would like to put up some impressive numbers up on a dyno but that's not my main purpose for this build. It may sound stupid to you but it's what I want. I want to do motor work to change the sound of the bike.
None of the guys I made reference to in my previous take their bikes to the track. Most have just shelled out $3000 or more to have a motor built expecting the motor to perform much better than it actually does because they let a third party throw some parts together. The end result is a motor that doesn't perform as it should, often with rideability issues that make the bike unpleasant to ride. I am just trying to prevent that from happening to you but I have made the case; your ride, you decide.

If that bad *** lopey sound is what you want, leave your bike alone and buy a Shovelhead. You won't be able to keep up with your buddies and you will be working on it most of the time but it will sound great.

EDIT: BTW, I never said what you wanted was stupid. Just sounds like the tail wagging the dog which is a sure fire recipe for disaster. Most of the fellows responding agree on the main point we have been trying to get across is that regardless of what you want, consult with a professional rather than listen to the guy behind the parts counter.
 

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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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None of the guys I made reference to in my previous take their bikes to the track. Most have just shelled out $3000 or more to have a motor built expecting the motor to perform much better than it actually does because they let a third party throw some parts together. The end result is a motor that doesn't perform as it should, often with rideability issues that make the bike unpleasant to ride. I am just trying to prevent that from happening to you but I have made the case; your ride, you decide.

If that bad *** lopey sound is what you want, leave your bike alone and buy a Shovelhead. You won't be able to keep up with your buddies and you will be working on it most of the time but it will sound great.
There are plenty of cams that sound good and make power also.

He said they suggested the Wood 777 with SE heads and asked if someone had done something similar.

Scott at Hillside does Wood cams he can help you out. His comment is number 8.... He said he would gladly help you out. Give him a call.

Of course the Wood 777 as was suggested for you:

 
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