woods 222 or cyclerama 570-2
#11
Wes Brown is coming up with some tricky lobe designs; check the overlap and exhaust timing on his cams compared to similar profiles. His cams come as close as possible to hitting hard low and mid range while still carrying the power out to the higher rpm range. All Cyclerama cams are performing very well and putting up some good numbers.
#12
Wes Brown is coming up with some tricky lobe designs; check the overlap and exhaust timing on his cams compared to similar profiles. His cams come as close as possible to hitting hard low and mid range while still carrying the power out to the higher rpm range. All Cyclerama cams are performing very well and putting up some good numbers.
In the big motor cams not so much. His prototype big inch cams fell a little short as target64 found out. His tried and true 651 cams follow a more typical profile.
#13
I don’t understand what bro science is. Maybe I poorly chose my use of science vs. belief’s. My point being in reference to the BELIEF that, if you’ve got it down low, you’ll loose it up high, and visa versa, when choosing a cam. The 570’s really shine down low, yet yet maintain all the way through the rpm’s, with a very flat and long torque curve. They also build more horsepower (it seems) than any other drop in cam, when doing cam only (stage 2) upgrades.
Prove me wrong, please. For a cam ONLY upgrade, I dare you to find a better cam for a 103” twin cam. And this comes from someone who chose Woods tw-222’s. And I’m not talking about a cam change with a compression increase of any kind (no .030 gaskets)
Pretty hard to argue this. Imagine if a Fatcat 2-1 was used
Prove me wrong, please. For a cam ONLY upgrade, I dare you to find a better cam for a 103” twin cam. And this comes from someone who chose Woods tw-222’s. And I’m not talking about a cam change with a compression increase of any kind (no .030 gaskets)
Pretty hard to argue this. Imagine if a Fatcat 2-1 was used
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I don’t understand what bro science is. Maybe I poorly chose my use of science vs. belief’s. My point being in reference to the BELIEF that, if you’ve got it down low, you’ll loose it up high, and visa versa, when choosing a cam. The 570’s really shine down low, yet yet maintain all the way through the rpm’s, with a very flat and long torque curve. They also build more horsepower (it seems) than any other drop in cam, when doing cam only (stage 2) upgrades.
Prove me wrong, please. For a cam ONLY upgrade, I dare you to find a better cam for a 103” twin cam. And this comes from someone who chose Woods tw-222’s. And I’m not talking about a cam change with a compression increase of any kind (no .030 gaskets)
Pretty hard to argue this. Imagine if a Fatcat 2-1 was used
Prove me wrong, please. For a cam ONLY upgrade, I dare you to find a better cam for a 103” twin cam. And this comes from someone who chose Woods tw-222’s. And I’m not talking about a cam change with a compression increase of any kind (no .030 gaskets)
Pretty hard to argue this. Imagine if a Fatcat 2-1 was used
Bafflingbs, what are your thoughts on this cam for a stage I 96ci 2008 Softail Custom? Thanks.
#15
Bro science is from the weight lifting world. It is something that gets repeated as fact without any evidence or anything based in fact at all. The two big reasons. First the guy regurgitating the information doesn't have any real type of understanding and gives bad info because of his ignorance. The other is the money factor. Since I have bought this. Since I have paid money for this. It has to be the best choice because I wouldn't of made anything besides the best choice. Then a lot of the "science" you hear gets pretty crazy but it all backs up why they made the best choice. This also goes along with the fan boys and cheer leaders.
Bro science wasn't an insult. It is just what happens on forums and the internet sometimes. I don't know if it is the best bolt in cam. I do think it is a great option for somebody looking for that power to suit their riding style.
Bro science wasn't an insult. It is just what happens on forums and the internet sometimes. I don't know if it is the best bolt in cam. I do think it is a great option for somebody looking for that power to suit their riding style.
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#16
Finally, also understand how everything works together. The best cams in the world can do nothing without a good intake and especially a good exhaust system. I found that out the hard way. Too open of an exhaust will hurt your low end torque very badly. But, that might not be such a bad thing for you, because of your light front end. You'll get the high numbers, but the curves may move to the right. These cams were designed more for the heavy baggers, as we need the torque down low. You may want more of a mid range cam. Again, that depends on your style of riding. I hope I've helped you, and haven't confused you. Beware the people pushing the stuff they have, they've already made up their minds.
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#20
Stock Road Glide 103, versus same bike with cams and tune...
I know, Wes probably spent some time tweaking the tune to get the most out of it, but it still shows the potential.