Can I do a 113" kit on my CVO 110 using stock parts?
#1
Can I do a 113" kit on my CVO 110 using stock parts?
My 2011 CVO Road Glide with 20,000 miles on it has a stage 1 using Fullsac CX pipe and 2" baffles with a TTS tuner, Stock ventilator A/C. Can a 113 kit be added to this bike using the stock 50mm TB, crank, heads and my stage 1 stuff? Should any stuff be updated along with the 113"? Ant recommendation on which 113" kit or parts to use? What type increase could I expect?
I want to swap out the lifters anyway so might as well add a bit of torque as well. Thanks. HMT
I want to swap out the lifters anyway so might as well add a bit of torque as well. Thanks. HMT
Last edited by heavymetalthunder; 04-15-2018 at 09:42 PM.
#2
A 3 cubic inch increase is going to net you around 2 hp and 3 lb/ft of torque, not something you're likely to notice. With that said, I believe you can simply bore your cylinders 0.060" with new pistons and rings and you'd be good to go with no other changes. I believe there are also "drop in" 113"kits available that require no other changes or upgrades.
Consider a cam upgrade while you're at it. A woods 555, Andrews 57H, or Cycle Rama 575 at 10.0-10.25:1 compression would give you a far bigger bang for the buck than the actual cubic in increase will, by far. Good luck with whatever route you decide to go.
Consider a cam upgrade while you're at it. A woods 555, Andrews 57H, or Cycle Rama 575 at 10.0-10.25:1 compression would give you a far bigger bang for the buck than the actual cubic in increase will, by far. Good luck with whatever route you decide to go.
#3
J&E, and Mahle, both manufacture pistons to allow the boring of those cyls to 113", and we've used both.
Either work well.
That said, with the addition of a cam, mild head mods, and a 58mm t/body(you currently have a mis-match from port to manifold)you can have a stout, reliable, powerplant.
Boring the cases will allow a 117", using your crankshaft.
Scott
Either work well.
That said, with the addition of a cam, mild head mods, and a 58mm t/body(you currently have a mis-match from port to manifold)you can have a stout, reliable, powerplant.
Boring the cases will allow a 117", using your crankshaft.
Scott
__________________
HILLSIDE MOTORCYCLE & MACHINE, INC.
HARLEY-DAVIDSON SPEED & SERVICE CENTER
5225 SOUTH MAIN ST., MUNNSVILLE, N.Y. 13409
Sales/Support 315-495-6650
www.hillsidecycle.com
Walk-in Retail Showroom
Complete H-D Machine Shop
Case & cylinder boring
Complete Cylinder Head Shop
High-Performance Engine Kits
Crank Rebuilding
Direct Link & PowerVision Tuning
Goodson HD Tooling Manufacturer
Maxton Mile World Record
4500 sq ft. facility
OVER 35 YEARS OF H-D ENGINE BUILDING.
See us on Facebook.
HILLSIDE MOTORCYCLE & MACHINE, INC.
HARLEY-DAVIDSON SPEED & SERVICE CENTER
5225 SOUTH MAIN ST., MUNNSVILLE, N.Y. 13409
Sales/Support 315-495-6650
www.hillsidecycle.com
Walk-in Retail Showroom
Complete H-D Machine Shop
Case & cylinder boring
Complete Cylinder Head Shop
High-Performance Engine Kits
Crank Rebuilding
Direct Link & PowerVision Tuning
Goodson HD Tooling Manufacturer
Maxton Mile World Record
4500 sq ft. facility
OVER 35 YEARS OF H-D ENGINE BUILDING.
See us on Facebook.
#5
I had a 113" done a ways back by getting my stock cylinders bored. From there, I had WFO Larry head work, 58mm TB, cycle-rama 575 cams, KB pistons, Fullsac/Crusher exhaust, and lower end reinforcement including the crank. Made 120/125 at around 10.2 compression. Very fun build with instant torque. The 113" is a nice platform.
The best advice I can offer.........Wait until you can do everything. I've done my bike in stages and though it's fun, a lot of unnecessary time and money was spent to get up to my 117" now (and I'm already thinking 124"). I wish someone would have yelled at me, and told me to just do a 124" initially and get it over with.
With the right combo of parts, you can have a dependable 113" 125+/125+ touring bike, no problem. I guarantee if you do a few things to gain 10 horsepower, you'll get bored soon and wish you would have waited and really juiced it up.
Good luck!
The best advice I can offer.........Wait until you can do everything. I've done my bike in stages and though it's fun, a lot of unnecessary time and money was spent to get up to my 117" now (and I'm already thinking 124"). I wish someone would have yelled at me, and told me to just do a 124" initially and get it over with.
With the right combo of parts, you can have a dependable 113" 125+/125+ touring bike, no problem. I guarantee if you do a few things to gain 10 horsepower, you'll get bored soon and wish you would have waited and really juiced it up.
Good luck!
#6
A 113" can easily be at 130/130.
Our web site has dyno evidence of one of the multitudes of S&S carbed 113" engines we performed our modifications to, and tuned in house......over 20 years ago.......130/140......long before these message boards, long before EFI.
Our company Facebook has a carbed 98", posted yesterday, that went 107/116 in extremely tame form.
Not made in China.
Scott
Our web site has dyno evidence of one of the multitudes of S&S carbed 113" engines we performed our modifications to, and tuned in house......over 20 years ago.......130/140......long before these message boards, long before EFI.
Our company Facebook has a carbed 98", posted yesterday, that went 107/116 in extremely tame form.
Not made in China.
Scott
#7
A 113" can easily be at 130/130.
Our web site has dyno evidence of one of the multitudes of S&S carbed 113" engines we performed our modifications to, and tuned in house......over 20 years ago.......130/140......long before these message boards, long before EFI.
Our company Facebook has a carbed 98", posted yesterday, that went 107/116 in extremely tame form.
Not made in China.
Scott
Our web site has dyno evidence of one of the multitudes of S&S carbed 113" engines we performed our modifications to, and tuned in house......over 20 years ago.......130/140......long before these message boards, long before EFI.
Our company Facebook has a carbed 98", posted yesterday, that went 107/116 in extremely tame form.
Not made in China.
Scott
Trending Topics
#8
your bike is my favorite cvo of all time
#9
You can get the Mahle piston from Suburban Harley in Thiensville WI, great pistons. No problem boring the 60 over. I would strongly urge you to do a 58mm throttle body as well, S&S throttle hog can be had for a great price and if you still have the stock A/C you can get the bigger backing plate from Harley. At the very least give the heads some attention while they are off. At the very LEAST a good valve job and seals, then match a cam to the compression and your riding style. You have a great exhaust and should be able to make some real power without breaking the bank. Tuned an 11 cvo Roadglide yesterday with cam/pipe upgrade, real nice bike. Gray
#10
You can get the Mahle piston from Suburban Harley in Thiensville WI, great pistons. No problem boring the 60 over. I would strongly urge you to do a 58mm throttle body as well, S&S throttle hog can be had for a great price and if you still have the stock A/C you can get the bigger backing plate from Harley.
Another option may be to bore the stock plate if there is room. I had that done to my Agitator back plate for 30 bucks.