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Old 10-14-2018, 08:39 AM
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So thats it right? Once that happens you spend over 1k for bigbore cylinders and pistons? And i say that from ignorance since im having a hard time finding stock 103 replacement cylinders.

As i gather it theres no saving a cylinder once its scarred by taking it 5 or 10 over as apparently increasing clearance increases the chance of piston slap. i initially thought i can clean it up and put in some bigger rings, but reading some on here that dosent seem like a thing thats done.

I appreciate anyone who can clear up my findings. this is only my second time going into a harley as im used to working on GM pushrod badasses.
 
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That cylinder can be bored to a max of 3.937. You would have to have a pretty deep scratch to not be able to save them. Stock cylinders are plentiful & cheap.
 
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Old 10-14-2018, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by wfolarry
That cylinder can be bored to a max of 3.937. You would have to have a pretty deep scratch to not be able to save them. Stock cylinders are plentiful & cheap.
well see thats my problem. theres nothing wrong with my pistons, at all. the scar came from teardown because apparently my i.q. dropped 50 points for a minute and i got what i deserve. But me readin on here, people dont clean up the bore and put on slightly larger rings. And to that ive read that doin that might cause piston slap.

i think takin the bore 10 over would clean it up, but my hesitation in that comes from what ive read.
 
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Why not just get a stock set of jugs and be done with it ?I would rather bore them than to run a oversize ring, but that's me.
 
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Oversize rings do not account for excess cylinder wall clearance. Cast pistons are usually fit somewhere between .0005" and .0015" clearance, so a .010" over bore would make that clearance somewhere between .0105"-.0115", and would indeed result in "piston slap".
 
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Harley carries a .005 and .010 oversized piston,ring set for little over $200. No big deal . Both require a bore and crosslap hone for ring seat. Any oversize requires a bore for true round

Done correctly, you will never know the difference.
Actually, if a scar that does not catch a fingernail hit with a medium grit stone for crosshatch will be fine.

Standard pistons with a .010 oversized bore would sound like a just started diesel at 20 degrees Fahrenheit. Guess, to some, that may be cool but compression would be about half with that much piston rock.
 

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JE will even make you a piston.
 
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3 choices:
1) If it's visual and not a real scratch, just a pass with a ball hone should be fine. Install new stock size rings on piston.
2) If you want to run your existing pistons, buy a used OE 88 or 96 cylinder (95 and 103 are same bore) and have it bored for your existing pistons.
3) Buy a set of .005" or .010" oversize pistons and have both cylinders bored.

This is easy to fix.
 
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Originally Posted by rigidthumper
Oversize rings do not account for excess cylinder wall clearance. Cast pistons are usually fit somewhere between .0005" and .0015" clearance, so a .010" over bore would make that clearance somewhere between .0105"-.0115", and would indeed result in "piston slap".
see thats was i was seeing so what i understood was correct, thank you very much bud.

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Harley carries a .005 and .010 oversized piston,ring set for little over $200. No big deal . Both require a bore and crosslap hone for ring seat. Any oversize requires a bore for true round

Done correctly, you will never know the difference.
Actually, if a scar that does not catch a fingernail hit with a medium grit stone for crosshatch will be fine.

Standard pistons with a .010 oversized bore would sound like a just started diesel at 20 degrees Fahrenheit. Guess, to some, that may be cool but compression would be about half with that much piston rock.
no it most definitely catches a fingernail, its ****ed without repair or replacement and im not looking to just get by, it needs to be done right but im not shelling out 900 bucks for a ****in big bore kit cause i dont need to go further down that damn rabbit hole to fix the tuning, im guessing, would come with that.

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Why not just get a stock set of jugs and be done with it ?I would rather bore them than to run a oversize ring, but that's me.
well, as the previous two mentioned you cant just run an oversized ring. and i want to just get a set of stock jugs, but as i have been reading, again, im worthless going into the harley world, everytime i look up 103 stock cylinder replacement, its ebay from a machine shop in Peoria, or "made in china", or "brand new 88" cylinder set" when i search for 103. case in point-
Trust a random machine shop, better than nothing i suppose
i guess 88 is the same thing as a 103 since it always gives me those results
"imported" is a professional way of saying china i guess

other that those likes, its "you must want a big bore kit" or used. I understand that i could go through drag specialties or my local HD (...fffuuuuuu) and just ask for stock replacements for 600-700 bucks. which is why i understand now why people just say to hell with it and big bore it. thanks for the help so far, as i see it, this little **** up is going to cost me more than i really hoped it would. i havent ventured down the path of oversized pistons yet, ill see to that possible later.
 
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Just buy a take off 88 or 96” cylinder for 30$ and have it bored. Its a very simple fix.
 


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