M8 crank strength compared to TC
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You mention two unrelated things there! Runout of around .006 is presumably in spec (I don't have an M8) and doesn't affect strength.
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Until someone actually tests these cranks, or does an A-B side by side load stress test "should be", "could be", "might be", or "I think they should be" are worthless comments.
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Neither pin diameter nor run-out measurement in and of themselves equals strength, reliability or longevity.
There has not been a side by side comparison so to answer your question......no one on this site knows-period.
OP-
Neither pin diameter nor run-out measurement in and of themselves equals strength, reliability or longevity.
There has not been a side by side comparison so to answer your question......no one on this site knows-period.
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Until someone actually tests these cranks, or does an A-B side by side load stress test "should be", "could be", "might be", or "I think they should be" are worthless comments.
OP-
Neither pin diameter nor run-out measurement in and of themselves equals strength, reliability or longevity.
There has not been a side by side comparison so to answer your question......no one on this site knows-period.
OP-
Neither pin diameter nor run-out measurement in and of themselves equals strength, reliability or longevity.
There has not been a side by side comparison so to answer your question......no one on this site knows-period.
Well SnS made a 1 1/2 inch pin cranks as their first attempt to make TC cranks and it sucked. I've killed 2 and have a rebuilt 3rd that is about to die. Their 3 piece 1.671 crank-pin cranks seems to do much better. At least we know going smaller don't work. Maybe a little engineering logic helps.
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Well SnS made a 1 1/2 inch pin cranks as their first attempt to make TC cranks and it sucked. I've killed 2 and have a rebuilt 3rd that is about to die. Their 3 piece 1.671 crank-pin cranks seems to do much better. At least we know going smaller don't work. Maybe a little engineering logic helps.
It is common knowledge you have bagged on S&S cranks in the past, but when I asked "what crank brand is better", I get crickets........
Here we go again...
"seems to do much better"...
Have you or anyone done AB testing to prove this? How? What testing proves this? You super limited shade tree mechanic experience on a couple cranks? Any engineering logic knows that is a laughable statement.
Do you realize S&S prostock cranks that hold 300 plus HP are only 1.5? ( I have run them BTW, but once again you haven't, nor do you have any data to support your claim). https://www.bikernet.com/pages/SS_Ho...h_Engines.aspx
Could it possibly be the reengineering of the entire crank assembly, and not the crank pin size in and of itself as I said?
I have also taken their TC cranks that "sucked" as you said, for over a decade and make alot more HP and beat on them much more than your builds.
Hmmmm.....
Again (this gets old), unless you actually test them (like when you did a great job actually testing the various carbs available-straight up, side by side for flow), you simply don't know.
What if someone said "a Mik 48 should flow more than a bored G".....I say, BS, unless you test, you don't know.
I agree, bigger usually is better, but prove it or don't say that crank pin size, in and of itself, makes a superior crank.
Prove it.
Last edited by PWMORRIS; 11-04-2018 at 10:10 PM.
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We've been steadily building M8's here, and as of now, no crank issues have been witnessed, including 3, 124"s.
Scott
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HARLEY-DAVIDSON SPEED & SERVICE CENTER
5225 SOUTH MAIN ST., MUNNSVILLE, N.Y. 13409
Sales/Support 315-495-6650
www.hillsidecycle.com
Walk-in Retail Showroom
Complete H-D Machine Shop
Case & cylinder boring
Complete Cylinder Head Shop
High-Performance Engine Kits
Crank Rebuilding
Direct Link & PowerVision Tuning
Goodson HD Tooling Manufacturer
Maxton Mile World Record
4500 sq ft. facility
OVER 35 YEARS OF H-D ENGINE BUILDING.
See us on Facebook.
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