Engine Mechanical Topics Discussion for motor builds, cams, head work, stripped bolts and other engine related issues. The good and the bad. If it goes round and around or up and down, post it here.

End float on evo crank

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 13, 2024 | 04:26 AM
  #1  
Exurbia's Avatar
Exurbia
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 7
Likes: 1
From: Perth
Default End float on evo crank

I've finally bought a modern HD, it's an evo.
Shovel frame, Trease race engineering cases, ss wheels, rods, pistons and jugs. Heads are revtech twin plugged.
The primo engine pulley carked it 2 days ago. It took out the alternator and rotor. Lotsa swarf and noise as it died.
I've pulled it apart and noticed a fair bit of end float, approx 40 thou.
Has the pinion nut come loose or is this crank float?
Any help is greatly appreciated, guess I'll have to buy a shop manual now.


 
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2024 | 08:36 AM
  #2  
MotoJockey's Avatar
MotoJockey
Grand HDF Member
Veteran: Navy
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 4,687
Likes: 3,985
From: Near Yosemite
Default

Different era bike, but I freaked myself out the other day when I measured my crankshaft endplay with the compensator off of my 14 SGS. It was 0.110"!! Spec is max 0.013"....... I found out that the endplay needs to be checked WITH the comp in place and torqued. Measured at 0.008" that time. Maybe see what you have after you put the parts back on?
 
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2024 | 08:43 AM
  #3  
Ohio HD's Avatar
Ohio HD
Road Master
10 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,044
Likes: 998
From: Ohio
Default

With a Timken setup the bearings are pressed on the sprocket shaft, there really shouldn't be any end play felt. However the endplay can't be checked without a sprocket in place and bolted down. The spec for the end play is 0.001" to 0.005". You need to attach a dial indicator to check it. It's hard to check accurately with the motor assembled. I'd bolt a sprocket on and see if the approximate 0.040" disappears. Make sure you torque the sprocket on to spec.

If the pulley came loose when the motor was running, the crank may have shifted from the outer Timken bearing.
 

Last edited by Ohio HD; Feb 13, 2024 at 08:56 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2024 | 03:10 PM
  #4  
NorthWestern's Avatar
NorthWestern
Club Member
10 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 10
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 11,627
Likes: 8,450
From: Inland NW
Riders Club Member
Default

Originally Posted by Exurbia
I've finally bought a modern HD, it's an evo.

Had to quote this! This will be in the running for Opening Post Of the Year!
 
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2024 | 02:04 AM
  #5  
Exurbia's Avatar
Exurbia
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 7
Likes: 1
From: Perth
Default Fixed it ??

I've fitted up a later compensator and clutch with newish chain. Rattled it up nisentite and now have 2and a gnats thou float. Can I get away with this set-up, will I need a slipper to stop chain waggle?

 
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2024 | 05:48 AM
  #6  
Jackie Paper's Avatar
Jackie Paper
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 38,673
Likes: 6,463
From: Honah Lee
Default

Are you saying you have 0.002? end play where the 4th place where I have a question mark is 9 or less?

Most Harley chains have 0.030 clearance over the sprockets. As long as you have your sprocket alignment close, your good .
 
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2024 | 08:24 AM
  #7  
Exurbia's Avatar
Exurbia
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 7
Likes: 1
From: Perth
Default 2 thou

Yes, if I'm reading your question correctly. When rattled up the end float clocks at just over 2 thou when nudged with a prybar. I've got an 80 inch shovel engine that has 4and a half thou when pried. When the primo centre got chewed out it took the alternator rotor and stator with it, I was astonished that everything stayed together, I take back all the horrid things I ever said about evos.....
My clutch basket and compensator are as square as I can get them. The chain is neither loose nor tight.
 
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2024 | 09:29 PM
  #8  
Since 1968's Avatar
Since 1968
Road Master
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 952
Likes: 528
From: Richmond TX
Default

It might be time to invent a chain tensioner..... Looks like an excellent project, congrats!!
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

Harley-Davidson Fat Boy Becomes a Dark, Decepticon-Inspired Custom

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 21, 2024 | 05:15 AM
  #9  
Exurbia's Avatar
Exurbia
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 7
Likes: 1
From: Perth
Default Tensioner

1986, I'm onto it. It's going to be a roller with spring in low pull tension. I'll put some pics up soon as I've got it working.
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2024 | 07:09 AM
  #10  
jbarr1's Avatar
jbarr1
Road Master
10 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 395
From: georgia
Default

Your foot will take up the extra slack when it gets caught and goes around the sprocket!
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:56 AM.

story-0
Harley-Davidson Fat Boy Becomes a Dark, Decepticon-Inspired Custom

Slideshow: Killer Custom's latest build relies on styling changes rather than performance upgrades, giving the cruiser an entirely different personality.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 18:28:05


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

Slideshow: From military-inspired singles to scooters and three-wheel utility vehicles, these Harleys took the company far outside its comfort zone.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-02 18:34:10


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-6
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-7
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-8
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE