Woods roller lifters
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05-16-2012, 06:51 AM
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Noisy top end
Old Gunny, it has been a while can you tell me if the noise from the top is still gone? I've got Woods cams and roller rockers in my '08 Road Glide and it's driving me nuts.
I have said here that I had a set of Woods Roller Lifters sitting on my workbench. Also a set of Smith Brothers Easy adjust Pushrods. I really didn't want to take the top end apart to replace my lifters. One way or another that worked out. The pushrods are excellent and now will make any cam change in the future easy.
People have asked me to comment when installed. They are in now.
Alright some background on the engine
Woods 7H cam Stock chain drive
Wolfgang Grasser Heads. See woods Site. Flow 280 or so
Milled 0.60 and 0.030 comitec gasket.
Zero Deck.
S&S Roller Rockers
205 CCP Maybe 10.7-11.0 compression with this cam
Heads set up with Woods springs for a 400 Cam- 0.650 lift.
Axtell 107, forged flatops pistons NHRS set rings
SE forged Rocker arm suports. Drilled to about 0.100 and deburred.
Zipper oil pressure shim. Have Biesley springs now,on the bench for later, but when I put in the cams then I hadn't heard of them.
Jagg 10 row oil cooler with thermostat
Amsoil 20 50 oil
HD 5 micron filter.
SE 58 mm TB with 4.9 injectors
V&H big Radious 2-1
TTS Mastertuner.
This had always been noisy. Too loud clattery noise. Everybody says thats just Woods cams and it is really. I have done everything I could think to help with this problem. Everything. There is nothing out of place or weak. Grade 9 bolts etc, etc. Oil, adjustments, whatever.
Now I have suspected the lifters and tried to help there. Fueling for oil flo lifters. Look just like stock HD lifters.
Adjusted further down.
Put in S&S travel limiters. Set all the way to 2-3 flats up from bottom. Almost solid.
Seemed to be headed in the right direction but still a lot of noise. Would maybe help but moved the spot where it came on around. But you keep on hoping.
Ever tried 20-60 wt oil and or a touch of STP,(I know, I know)
Stock type lifters didn't get the job done with these springs and cam.
So looking at Jims, the new HeadQuarters a couple others.
Then saw this new Woods Lifter. Called, the Man said they would work. Woods has some special stuff. Maybe?? A different design, not just the oil hole. And they are different looking some. So OK we'll see.
So I got them. Finished this morning.
THEY WORK.
Comepletely different engine. All RPMs just a small ticky, tick.
Cannot say enough. I am very, very pleased.
Put about 75 miles, hard highway and crusing around, on the bike, temp about 85 degrees out. Oil temp steady at 200 degrees.
Actually seems stronger but that may be just the idea of, less clatter, more HP.
Notheing but exhaust which seems more bearable.
Honestly I was getting very tired of the clatter.
Seems like a new, different engine. It is now a pleasure to ride and not think all the time about the clatter at 2100, or 2800 or 3600 RPM. ---That would not go away no matter what.--
I would say even the transmission was quiter but thats not really right.
More Joy
And Bob Woods sent me a T-shirt. Cooking with gas now.
People have asked me to comment when installed. They are in now.
Alright some background on the engine
Woods 7H cam Stock chain drive
Wolfgang Grasser Heads. See woods Site. Flow 280 or so
Milled 0.60 and 0.030 comitec gasket.
Zero Deck.
S&S Roller Rockers
205 CCP Maybe 10.7-11.0 compression with this cam
Heads set up with Woods springs for a 400 Cam- 0.650 lift.
Axtell 107, forged flatops pistons NHRS set rings
SE forged Rocker arm suports. Drilled to about 0.100 and deburred.
Zipper oil pressure shim. Have Biesley springs now,on the bench for later, but when I put in the cams then I hadn't heard of them.
Jagg 10 row oil cooler with thermostat
Amsoil 20 50 oil
HD 5 micron filter.
SE 58 mm TB with 4.9 injectors
V&H big Radious 2-1
TTS Mastertuner.
This had always been noisy. Too loud clattery noise. Everybody says thats just Woods cams and it is really. I have done everything I could think to help with this problem. Everything. There is nothing out of place or weak. Grade 9 bolts etc, etc. Oil, adjustments, whatever.
Now I have suspected the lifters and tried to help there. Fueling for oil flo lifters. Look just like stock HD lifters.
Adjusted further down.
Put in S&S travel limiters. Set all the way to 2-3 flats up from bottom. Almost solid.
Seemed to be headed in the right direction but still a lot of noise. Would maybe help but moved the spot where it came on around. But you keep on hoping.
Ever tried 20-60 wt oil and or a touch of STP,(I know, I know)
Stock type lifters didn't get the job done with these springs and cam.
So looking at Jims, the new HeadQuarters a couple others.
Then saw this new Woods Lifter. Called, the Man said they would work. Woods has some special stuff. Maybe?? A different design, not just the oil hole. And they are different looking some. So OK we'll see.
So I got them. Finished this morning.
THEY WORK.
Comepletely different engine. All RPMs just a small ticky, tick.
Cannot say enough. I am very, very pleased.
Put about 75 miles, hard highway and crusing around, on the bike, temp about 85 degrees out. Oil temp steady at 200 degrees.
Actually seems stronger but that may be just the idea of, less clatter, more HP.
Notheing but exhaust which seems more bearable.
Honestly I was getting very tired of the clatter.
Seems like a new, different engine. It is now a pleasure to ride and not think all the time about the clatter at 2100, or 2800 or 3600 RPM. ---That would not go away no matter what.--
I would say even the transmission was quiter but thats not really right.
More Joy
And Bob Woods sent me a T-shirt. Cooking with gas now.
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