Stage 1 installed - Carb leaking gas
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Stage 1 installed - Carb leaking gas
Hi,
I installed a A/C kit and Dynojet Jet Kit from my dealer with a V&H 2-1 on my 05 Dyna - sounds great....
However now the tuning issues are happening... I drilled out the 1/8 hole on the slide as well - and that seems to be working ok but now I have the following issues:
1. Carb farts - backfiring through the carb
2. Gas leaking out the carb when the bike is turned off
3. When accelerating - backfiring, bad performance - dead spots, etc. Poor accleration
4. Plugs look rich - very black. I replaced them and they are coming out black.
I've adjusted the idle screw - 2 1/4 turns out and the idle seems to be good.
With the dyno kit I installed the 180 jet and the stock slow is still on.
The needle that came with the kit - i put the lock washer on as directed - on the 4th groove down from the top and then placed 3 little washers on top of it.
I've replaced the diaphragm / slider thinking I had a leak in it. I am having the same problem.
I'm new to this and am now at my wit's end... i can turn the screw until I'm blue in the face - I think it's still too rich but why the gas leak?
I've removed the bottom of the carb - checked the bowl and it's sediment free - I've changed the gas as well.
I think I'm pretty close so any tips are appreciated - do I adjust float bowl - if so - how?
Do I lower or raise the needle?
I don't have a clue anymore - thanks in advance!!!
I installed a A/C kit and Dynojet Jet Kit from my dealer with a V&H 2-1 on my 05 Dyna - sounds great....
However now the tuning issues are happening... I drilled out the 1/8 hole on the slide as well - and that seems to be working ok but now I have the following issues:
1. Carb farts - backfiring through the carb
2. Gas leaking out the carb when the bike is turned off
3. When accelerating - backfiring, bad performance - dead spots, etc. Poor accleration
4. Plugs look rich - very black. I replaced them and they are coming out black.
I've adjusted the idle screw - 2 1/4 turns out and the idle seems to be good.
With the dyno kit I installed the 180 jet and the stock slow is still on.
The needle that came with the kit - i put the lock washer on as directed - on the 4th groove down from the top and then placed 3 little washers on top of it.
I've replaced the diaphragm / slider thinking I had a leak in it. I am having the same problem.
I'm new to this and am now at my wit's end... i can turn the screw until I'm blue in the face - I think it's still too rich but why the gas leak?
I've removed the bottom of the carb - checked the bowl and it's sediment free - I've changed the gas as well.
I think I'm pretty close so any tips are appreciated - do I adjust float bowl - if so - how?
Do I lower or raise the needle?
I don't have a clue anymore - thanks in advance!!!
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#4
RE: Stage 1 installed - Carb leaking gas
Hi,
another eventful day in my driveway....
I don't know if it is a CV40 carb - it's a 2005 FXDX Dyna Super Glide - it looks like all the pictures on the site in terms of CV carbs.
So - I moved the e-clip to the 3rd groove and went from there.
Is there a good way to put the diaphragm back in? It's a pain in the butt!!! Anyways - that's done and I hear the vacuum of the slider/diaphragm so it seems good.
It idled well - and i played with the fuel air mixture screw on the bottom of the carb and the idle screw - it was idling just fine. I took it for a ride and it was
PERFECT
absolutely the best ride I've had - around the block that is.
My Brother-in-law took it for a longer ride - openned it up - had lots of pep and didn't backfire, carb fart or anything.
So we continue to put the Air Filter on (oh yeah - my ride was with the carb exposed....) - but now the bike is nice and warm. As we are assembling the air filter... here comes the gas... i can here it gurgling and flowing up past the needle and out the carb.
It's like it's breathing - i can hear it coming - weird. So it leaks gas and I see it rising. There is a strong vacuum. I took the cap off of the gas tank and it still continued to draw gas from the float and drip out the carb.
So - any ideas now? Maybe I have to lower the float?
Other than the A/C, jetting and Pipes it's stock.
TIA
another eventful day in my driveway....
I don't know if it is a CV40 carb - it's a 2005 FXDX Dyna Super Glide - it looks like all the pictures on the site in terms of CV carbs.
So - I moved the e-clip to the 3rd groove and went from there.
Is there a good way to put the diaphragm back in? It's a pain in the butt!!! Anyways - that's done and I hear the vacuum of the slider/diaphragm so it seems good.
It idled well - and i played with the fuel air mixture screw on the bottom of the carb and the idle screw - it was idling just fine. I took it for a ride and it was
PERFECT
absolutely the best ride I've had - around the block that is.
My Brother-in-law took it for a longer ride - openned it up - had lots of pep and didn't backfire, carb fart or anything.
So we continue to put the Air Filter on (oh yeah - my ride was with the carb exposed....) - but now the bike is nice and warm. As we are assembling the air filter... here comes the gas... i can here it gurgling and flowing up past the needle and out the carb.
It's like it's breathing - i can hear it coming - weird. So it leaks gas and I see it rising. There is a strong vacuum. I took the cap off of the gas tank and it still continued to draw gas from the float and drip out the carb.
So - any ideas now? Maybe I have to lower the float?
Other than the A/C, jetting and Pipes it's stock.
TIA
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RE: Stage 1 installed - Carb leaking gas
It looks like a simple failure to me.
Take off the float bowl , and take out the float-needle ( fuel valve ) , and clean it with soft cotton rag .
See if there are no dirt particles left on the needle-seat.
Be careful not to bend the metal joint of the float.
adjustment for 1340 cc EVO :
slow jet 45 , mixture screw 3 turns open
main jet 175 ,....stock needle , place 1 washer under it .
drill out the vacuüm hole with a 1/8 " bit.
Remove the metal "halve moon" from the stock filter assy.
Remove the narrow duct located right above the bottom opening, using an iron-saw blade.
Make an extra openingin the plastic back-side of the filter assy.
Replace the stock filter-element for a better K&N filter-element.
Take off the float bowl , and take out the float-needle ( fuel valve ) , and clean it with soft cotton rag .
See if there are no dirt particles left on the needle-seat.
Be careful not to bend the metal joint of the float.
adjustment for 1340 cc EVO :
slow jet 45 , mixture screw 3 turns open
main jet 175 ,....stock needle , place 1 washer under it .
drill out the vacuüm hole with a 1/8 " bit.
Remove the metal "halve moon" from the stock filter assy.
Remove the narrow duct located right above the bottom opening, using an iron-saw blade.
Make an extra openingin the plastic back-side of the filter assy.
Replace the stock filter-element for a better K&N filter-element.
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RE: Stage 1 installed - Carb leaking gas
Ok - the weather has been crap and I haven't been able to work on the bike. Finally another crappy day but doable. Bike is still RICH like crazy. I have the carb off - HOW do I adjust the FLOAT level? Should I lower the float so that it closes sooner? Or do I raise it so it pushes the needle up farther and closes the fuel.
I guess I'll find out when I take the bowl off - but just need some advice.
Gas is still leaking into the carb. ARRRRRRRRRGH.
I guess I'll find out when I take the bowl off - but just need some advice.
Gas is still leaking into the carb. ARRRRRRRRRGH.
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RE: Stage 1 installed - Carb leaking gas
answer from Holland.....
Why don't you people buy an original HD-Service Manual ?
It's all in there !
I ordered one ,..."FX / Softail models" 1993 and 1994 , official factory manual .
I recall what's on page 4-13 , about float adjustment :
Place carburator on a flat clean surface on engine manifold side.
This is the "base".
Tilt carburator counterclockwise 15 - to 20 degrees from "base" until float comes to rest . ( at this point the needle is in closing position !! )
Note : "If you tilt the carburator less than 15 degrees , or more than 20 degrees , your measurements ( adjustment ) will be incorrect.
what you also can do is this ( after adjustment ) ,....just blow in the fuel-hose and lift the float upwards ,....if it blocks the air ,....it will block the fuel for sure.
Forgive me for my bad English , but this is the best I can . Hahahaha.
regards,
Sjors.
Why don't you people buy an original HD-Service Manual ?
It's all in there !
I ordered one ,..."FX / Softail models" 1993 and 1994 , official factory manual .
I recall what's on page 4-13 , about float adjustment :
Place carburator on a flat clean surface on engine manifold side.
This is the "base".
Tilt carburator counterclockwise 15 - to 20 degrees from "base" until float comes to rest . ( at this point the needle is in closing position !! )
Note : "If you tilt the carburator less than 15 degrees , or more than 20 degrees , your measurements ( adjustment ) will be incorrect.
what you also can do is this ( after adjustment ) ,....just blow in the fuel-hose and lift the float upwards ,....if it blocks the air ,....it will block the fuel for sure.
Forgive me for my bad English , but this is the best I can . Hahahaha.
regards,
Sjors.
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RE: Stage 1 installed - Carb leaking gas
Thanks - I ended up taking the float off (that pin was a bit of a pain to get out!!!!) and pulled the needle. It looked clean, but i cleaned it again and blew out the hole with compressed air. I put it all back together and stuck it on and idled the bike.
At this point I didn't get any gas overflowing the carb after it heated up and ran for a while. I'll put everything on securely and take it for a spin tomorrow now that the snow has melted again.
If the CARB is farting / spitting - is it too lean? I assume that'll just be idle / air screw adjustment - currently at 2 1/4 turns out.
Anyways thanks a bunch for the tips - I figure it's getting close.
The worse thing that happened while idling the bike.... my winter jacket melted onto my brand new V&H 2 in 1s. What a mess..... 20 min with a razor blade cleaned it up - I can't seem to win here! DOH DOH [sm=headbang.gif][sm=headbang.gif][sm=headbang.gif]
At this point I didn't get any gas overflowing the carb after it heated up and ran for a while. I'll put everything on securely and take it for a spin tomorrow now that the snow has melted again.
If the CARB is farting / spitting - is it too lean? I assume that'll just be idle / air screw adjustment - currently at 2 1/4 turns out.
Anyways thanks a bunch for the tips - I figure it's getting close.
The worse thing that happened while idling the bike.... my winter jacket melted onto my brand new V&H 2 in 1s. What a mess..... 20 min with a razor blade cleaned it up - I can't seem to win here! DOH DOH [sm=headbang.gif][sm=headbang.gif][sm=headbang.gif]