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DM426 Oct 8, 2016 11:36 PM

I'm the motorcyclist you're probably going to kill
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/im-motorc...205708830.html

Not the kind of milquetoast editorial one usually finds on Yahoo News, but I'll take it. Because he's right.

But even though we all know he's right, nothing is going to change until the death toll reaches some kind of tipping point which pushes society over the edge. And that hasn't yet happened, so people are willing to just accept it.

Some dude gets shot by the cops, society loses it and burns half the town down. A soldier gets killed on a battlefield in a faraway land, people march on Washington and demand immediate change to foreign policy. But 40,000 people are slaughtered every year on the roads and no one bats an eye.

geezer glide 56 Oct 9, 2016 06:13 AM

And now since the introduction of the Rushmore Harleys in 2014,the owners of them can be equally distracted,playing with the GPS and their phones while cruising the freeways.

mskirwin Oct 9, 2016 06:21 AM

I agree 100%. The other day in bumper to bumper traffic a young girl moving about 5mph had her head and phone out the window taking selfies along side of me. She missed the back of the P/U in front of her by inches only because I yelled "put the xxxx phone away".

It's getting worse on all of the roads. I've seen State Police talking on there phones on I-95 going over 70mph. How can you enforce the law when your breaking the law?

FatKen Oct 9, 2016 06:40 AM

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rizzo Oct 9, 2016 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by FatKen (Post 15580658)

They're trained professionals, just ask 'em, they'll tell ya.

Newharleylover Oct 9, 2016 07:23 AM

Distracted drivers is a recipe for disaster. Everyone knows it and there's laws against it but if the ones who are trying to enforce the law are doing it then it defeats the purpose.

Campy Roadie Oct 9, 2016 07:30 AM

It goes both ways. There are more people riding motorcycles on the road today that don't have the appropriate skills to do so.

So here's what I say to "our" community:

Stop lying to yourself for the sake of ego. Thinking you can do something and being able to do it are two completely different things. You will resort to what you have practiced in the time of emergency; if you've practiced no skills for avoidance then panic takes over and you crash or get hit.

Realize that the best way to keep from getting killed is to eliminate, avoid or minimize your time in the killing zones. Crying about how cars constantly change lanes on you tells me you spend too much time in blind spots. I've seen guys riding in cars/trucks blind spots that had the outside mirrors broken off. All I see is a guy at the family reunion perpetuating those same old BS stories about how he used to race motocross but gave up street riding because nobody is good enough to keep from being killed.

The enemies:

Right of way left turn violators. If nothing else, go the speed limit thru intersections. Speed x 1.5 = feet per second. The slower you go the better chance you have to brake and or swerve. Don't enter intersections cloaked by another vehicle, hiding yourself from left turners. Watch vehicles for signs of movement as well as the driver. Their hands sometimes move before the cars do.

Right of way violators from the right. See above

Single vehicle crashes involving only a motorcycle rider in a curve, or Fail To Negotiate. Learn to ride, then learn to ride well; never be satisfied with your skill and ride your ride when with others. Don't get sucked into someone else's corner entry speed.

Don't ride after one drink, toke or med.

Wear a helmet.

Have a license and the skill to pass the test on the machine you're riding. If you can't pass the test on your bike, you don't possess the minimum amount of skill to ride that bike on the street.

Don't dick with the radio, phones, texts or other geegaws. Riders cry foul when car drivers and the cops do it, then do it themselves on machines that require much more attention to control.

I've seen the enemy and the enemy is us. Just because you choose to ride a machine that makes you more vulnerable doesn't make you special. It means you have a greater responsibility to yourself and your family to be proficient. And to the crowd that says, "it's gonna happen sometime no matter what"; you're right, it will happen to you.

09 YELLOWBIRD Oct 9, 2016 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by FatKen (Post 15580658)






"They all do that!"..... Just like a Harley!


:icon_crackup:


YB

hdbob2006 Oct 9, 2016 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Nomadmax (Post 15580729)
It goes both ways. There are more people riding motorcycles on the road today that don't have the appropriate skills to do so.

So here's what I say to "our" community:

Stop lying to yourself for the sake of ego. Thinking you can do something and being able to do it are two completely different things. You will resort to what you have practiced in the time of emergency; if you've practiced no skills for avoidance then panic takes over and you crash or get hit.

Realize that the best way to keep from getting killed is to eliminate, avoid or minimize your time in the killing zones. Crying about how cars constantly change lanes on you tells me you spend too much time in blind spots. I've seen guys riding in cars/trucks blind spots that had the outside mirrors broken off. All I see is a guy at the family reunion perpetuating those same old BS stories about how he used to race motocross but gave up street riding because nobody is good enough to keep from being killed.

The enemies:

Right of way left turn violators. If nothing else, go the speed limit thru intersections. Speed x 1.5 = feet per second. The slower you go the better chance you have to brake and or swerve. Don't enter intersections cloaked by another vehicle, hiding yourself from left turners. Watch vehicles for signs of movement as well as the driver. Their hands sometimes move before the cars do.

Right of way violators from the right. See above

Single vehicle crashes involving only a motorcycle rider in a curve, or Fail To Negotiate. Learn to ride, then learn to ride well; never be satisfied with your skill and ride your ride when with others. Don't get sucked into someone else's corner entry speed.

Don't ride after one drink, toke or med.

Wear a helmet.

Have a license and the skill to pass the test on the machine you're riding. If you can't pass the test on your bike, you don't possess the minimum amount of skill to ride that bike on the street.

Don't dick with the radio, phones, texts or other geegaws. Riders cry foul when car drivers and the cops do it, then do it themselves on machines that require much more attention to control.

I've seen the enemy and the enemy is us. Just because you choose to ride a machine that makes you more vulnerable doesn't make you special. It means you have a greater responsibility to yourself and your family to be proficient. And to the crowd that says, "it's gonna happen sometime no matter what"; you're right, it will happen to you.

THIS should probably be a sticky!!! I quoted it because it deserves to be re-read! I've reread it twice,and can't argue with a single point,thanks Nomad!

Greezey Rider Oct 9, 2016 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Nomadmax (Post 15580729)
And to the crowd that says, "it's gonna happen sometime no matter what"; you're right, it will happen to you.


The whole post was spot on, but in my opinion, this is the best line in it.
I have been saying this for years.....I don't believe that "shit happens" without some kind if trigger from the fool that it happens to.


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