Both WWI and WWII and several years ago issued an apology for involvement with the *****.

 

Yep

 

Call it what every you want mr harley engineer just fix it

 

I'm pretty sure I said just that back in post #8.

 

doesn't need fixing. it's fine just as it is.

 

Amen

Noobs just need to learn how to use it and stop overthinking

 

If it ain't broke tear it apart and find out why.......

 

I've had two bikes, both metrics, that dropped because of the kickstand. Once in a parking lot when a young person let his car door swing wide. The door bumped my bike, unweighted the kickstand, the spring retracted the stand and over she went, knocking the car door closed. That was a Yamaha dual purpose bike. The other time a strong gust of wind unweighted the stand, and, again, the spring retracted the stand and down it went. That was a sport bike.

I trust the Harley jiffy stand completely, but I would never trust the metric kickstands.

 

Years ago my girlfriend had a Honda Rebel. I accidentally moved it and down it went. Cost me a few bucks on Ebay getting new handlebar clutch castings and a new mirror! Love the locking HD Jiffystand/sidestand/kickstand (to cover all political persuasions!).

 

Every reply here has merit, even the flamethrowers, That being said, I truly remember a time when a Harley kickstand ,jiffy to some, was eased out forward from the 90 degree mark from which it now so proudly sits. and works btw. Back then it didn't
need the weight of the bike to ''lock'' it in.....I'm probably just a sentimental old fool wishing for some more of yesteryear albeit from a kickstand of all things......thanks for all the replies.