General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Would you buy a V-4 Harley?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #11  
Old 09-01-2017, 08:12 AM
MiniWolf's Avatar
MiniWolf
MiniWolf is offline
Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Midwest
Posts: 6,890
Received 4,688 Likes on 2,258 Posts
Default

I guess it depends on what the goal is. How many cylinders an engine has is only one part of the story. Just as important are cams, valves, cooling, configurations, etc....just putting more cylinders onto a Harley engine makes the bikes even heavier and you basically end up with a huge and cumbersome torque machine like the Boss Hog. If the goal is to produce more HP, there are more efficient ways to do that. But the next question is, why? If the goal is to produce sports-bike performance numbers, your'e going to have to also shed lots of weight, replace metal with plastics, change the overall profile etc...Basically build a sport bike instead of a cruiser.
 
  #12  
Old 09-01-2017, 08:38 AM
upflying's Avatar
upflying
upflying is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Post Falls, ID
Posts: 34,064
Received 26,139 Likes on 11,100 Posts
Default

V4 Harley..

 
The following 2 users liked this post by upflying:
ChrisHo (09-01-2017), rhino1250 (09-01-2017)
  #13  
Old 09-01-2017, 08:54 AM
blackxpress's Avatar
blackxpress
blackxpress is offline
Road Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Heart of Georgia
Posts: 1,048
Received 492 Likes on 241 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MiniWolf
I guess it depends on what the goal is. How many cylinders an engine has is only one part of the story. Just as important are cams, valves, cooling, configurations, etc....just putting more cylinders onto a Harley engine makes the bikes even heavier and you basically end up with a huge and cumbersome torque machine like the Boss Hog. If the goal is to produce more HP, there are more efficient ways to do that. But the next question is, why? If the goal is to produce sports-bike performance numbers, your'e going to have to also shed lots of weight, replace metal with plastics, change the overall profile etc...Basically build a sport bike instead of a cruiser.
True enough. I'm just wondering where HD goes from here. They've made a lot of improvements to the V-twin over the years in their quest to give us better performance while still maintaining (somewhat) the old school Harley vibe. Just thinking out loud. I guess they've got several years before they'll need to make any more major changes. After all, the TC lasted 20 years before it got phased out. If they can squeeze 20 years out of the M8 then what? There was a time when a Harley was the most powerful bike on the road but that hasn't been true for a very long time. Other manufacturers are not tied to a particular design the way HD is. A good example (I think) is Triumph. They still make an old school air cooled twin but they also make large displacement liquid cooled twins, sport bikes and the most powerful cruiser you can get in the Rocket III and (as far as I know) the Triumph loyalists are not screaming bloody murder about them turning Jap.
 
  #14  
Old 09-01-2017, 08:58 AM
Slingshot383's Avatar
Slingshot383
Slingshot383 is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Saint Charles, Missouri
Posts: 1,137
Received 400 Likes on 284 Posts
Default

The new 4-valve headed engine is the one that should have followed the EVO, as there was 2 companies that offered 4-valve heads for the EVO.
 
  #15  
Old 09-01-2017, 09:41 AM
6 gun's Avatar
6 gun
6 gun is offline
Ultimate HDF Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 9,361
Received 1,743 Likes on 980 Posts
Default

I'm 58 and and my earthly body is going to hell in a hand basket, so I don't figger I'll get a chance to.
 
  #16  
Old 09-01-2017, 10:08 AM
MiniWolf's Avatar
MiniWolf
MiniWolf is offline
Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Midwest
Posts: 6,890
Received 4,688 Likes on 2,258 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by blackxpress
There was a time when a Harley was the most powerful bike on the road but that hasn't been true for a very long time. Other manufacturers are not tied to a particular design the way HD is. A good example (I think) is Triumph. They still make an old school air cooled twin but they also make large displacement liquid cooled twins, sport bikes and the most powerful cruiser you can get in the Rocket III and (as far as I know) the Triumph loyalists are not screaming bloody murder about them turning Jap.
Harley will make whatever sells. The goal is profit, not keeping purists happy. If it takes keeping purists happy to make this profit, they will stick to the script. But there are only so many buyers out there and the overall riding population in the North American market has been shrinking, not growing. If Harley could market a sport bike and make money off of it, they would. But they already tried that route with the Buell line and to a lesser extent, they offered a muscle cruiser with the V-Rod. Neither really garnered the level of interest to bring in profits.
 
The following users liked this post:
AJSHOVEL (09-01-2017)
  #17  
Old 09-01-2017, 10:43 AM
Mark out West's Avatar
Mark out West
Mark out West is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Santa Barbara
Posts: 1,081
Received 1,010 Likes on 487 Posts
Default

The V Rod (R.I.P) Destroyer Revolution engine made 160 HP/97 lb-ft out of 1300 CCs. So as a platform, the V-twin configuration still has a lot of life left in it. Ultimately, CARB/EPA will force the decision on which way HD goes. Air-cooled just doesn't have the tolerances needed for future emissions standards. If Porsche couldn't do it, I doubt HD has the science or technology either.
 
  #18  
Old 09-01-2017, 10:51 AM
Almostinvincible119's Avatar
Almostinvincible119
Almostinvincible119 is offline
Road Captain
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Florida Panhandle
Posts: 719
Received 128 Likes on 94 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by big cahuna
They just dropped a water cooled V-Twin because the "Harley" buying public didn't like it or buy it. So I'm gonna say most will say, No.,,,
Originally Posted by GRWHD
They still offer the "Twin-Cooled™ Milwaukee-Eight" in the big baggers.
He's talking about the VROD, GRWHD
 
  #19  
Old 09-01-2017, 10:52 AM
vizcarmb's Avatar
vizcarmb
vizcarmb is online now
Stellar HDF Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NorCal Rocklin
Posts: 3,328
Received 524 Likes on 363 Posts
Default

If you have ridden a V4 Aprilia Tuono or RSV4, then Hell Yeah I would buy one. The only downside is the bad MPG you get from V4's
 
  #20  
Old 09-01-2017, 11:04 AM
mastergunnera8's Avatar
mastergunnera8
mastergunnera8 is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: VA
Posts: 908
Received 121 Likes on 102 Posts
Default

Bad *** motor,and yes..stupid expensive..crap maybe even harley could underprice them...lol

https://www.motusmotorcycles.com/americanv4
 
The following users liked this post:
ktp1598 (01-12-2018)


Quick Reply: Would you buy a V-4 Harley?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:27 PM.