Originally Posted by army_eod
(Post 17505718)
I agree about younger generation. Us old geezers grew up in the 50s and 60s and knew how to do things ourselves and were good at it.
Younger folks have been brainwashed into stupidity and are not competent at anything useful, in my opinion. Video game skills count for nothing in my world. We were iron men with wooden ships. They are not even men or women anymore. They don't even know there is a difference. They could not change a light bulb most of the time, let alone work on a 1966 Triumph Bonny. Just my unbiased opinion, of course. So no wonder they don't buy or ride bikes. Hell, most of them never even rode a bicycle. To generalize an entire generation is a bit ridiculous. This last week I painted my entire main level of the house, built some furniture for a nursery, rode a few hundred miles, cut the grass, worked as an accountant, drank some good beers at a brewery and by a bonfire, watched zero TV, and played zero video games. Maybe I’m just the exception. |
Originally Posted by Studlintsean
(Post 17505892)
Can’t change a light bulb? Most never rode a bicycle? You don’t really believe this do you? I agree today’s generation is different but most millennials were born in the 80s and early 90s and video games were nothing like they are today. To generalize an entire generation is a bit ridiculous. This last week I painted my entire main level of the house, built some furniture for a nursery, rode a few hundred miles, cut the grass, worked as an accountant, drank some good beers at a brewery and by a bonfire, watched zero TV, and played zero video games. Maybe I’m just the exception. |
Originally Posted by Yamaharley
(Post 17505966)
Nope. Old folk on here generalize too much. Im a millennial too and i barely fit the mold they portray. It gets annoying the whole blame millennial/millennials are worthless thing.
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Generalizations never are 100%. But I can tell you in the 80s and 90s Video games were huge. in the 80s every town of any size had a huge video arcade that the kids would hang out in every min. In the 90s is when the 3rd and 4th gen video games can on line. My work would take me to places where we had to stay in a motel for a week or so at a time. My Brother who is 30 today and still plays games like a 13 year old and is his only hobby would take a game and play it back then till I pulled the plug because we had to sleep. I played games back in the 80s it was new and interesting. But as I aged it became something I could spend an hour or two every 6 months on. I would rather read a book or watch a good movie, built something or do something. Go for a hike. The biggest problem I see with the Millennial gen. is many are spoiled. I had it better than my Parents and Grandparents but still I had to feed the cows, chickens and water them, Help farm, and kill and can and cut and stack wood for winter. Now they are many times given a smart phone that they can see what is happening on the other side of the world in the palm of their hand at any moment. I can remember when my dad bought an RCA color tv. 19 inch. We were one of the first to get one in our area. When the MT started to weaken he bought another and gave me the set. It was fuzzy and not clear and we only had 4 channels to get, ABC NBC PBS and CBS. and could not get all 4 on any particular day. I thought I was king of the world. Then my dad gave me his worn out lazy boy when he got a new one and in my bedroom I had a TV and Lazy boy. I felt like Little lord Fauntleroy. Today's kids would think it was time to take out my junk and clean up the room.
Also how many kids are given or have nice new newer cars? My fist car was a 71 AMC. When the breaks went out I had to change them. My dad would say there is the ditch by the house park it over the ditch and pull the tires I will come out to see what you are doing. I pulled my Transmission by my self to put in a new clutch and pressure plate. Today's kids [again most not all] take their car into the nearest Walmart to get the oil changed. would not know a break pad from a shoe. So is there a difference, yep there sure is. Again not all Millennial fit this but many many do. It works the other ways also. Many older people pre boomer gen, the greatest gen, think Marijuana is a gate way drug and you are a hippie addict if you use it. Some of their views are very antiquated and just wrong. They are very set many times in their way of thinking. |
Originally Posted by edteach
(Post 17506008)
Generalizations never are 100%. But I can tell you in the 80s and 90s Video games were huge. in the 80s every town of any size had a huge video arcade that the kids would hang out in every min. In the 90s is when the 3rd and 4th gen video games can on line. My work would take me to places where we had to stay in a motel for a week or so at a time. My Brother who is 30 today and still plays games like a 13 year old and is his only hobby would take a game and play it back then till I pulled the plug because we had to sleep. I played games back in the 80s it was new and interesting. But as I aged it became something I could spend an hour or two every 6 months on. I would rather read a book or watch a good movie, built something or do something. Go for a hike. The biggest problem I see with the Millennial gen. is many are spoiled. I had it better than my Parents and Grandparents but still I had to feed the cows, chickens and water them, Help farm, and kill and can and cut and stack wood for winter. Now they are many times given a smart phone that they can see what is happening on the other side of the world in the palm of their hand at any moment. I can remember when my dad bought an RCA color tv. 19 inch. We were one of the first to get one in our area. When the MT started to weaken he bought another and gave me the set. It was fuzzy and not clear and we only had 4 channels to get, ABC NBC PBS and CBS. and could not get all 4 on any particular day. I thought I was king of the world. Then my dad gave me his worn out lazy boy when he got a new one and in my bedroom I had a TV and Lazy boy. I felt like Little lord Fauntleroy. Today's kids would think it was time to take out my junk and clean up the room.
Also how many kids are given or have nice new newer cars? My fist car was a 71 AMC. When the breaks went out I had to change them. My dad would say there is the ditch by the house park it over the ditch and pull the tires I will come out to see what you are doing. I pulled my Transmission by my self to put in a new clutch and pressure plate. Today's kids [again most not all] take their car into the nearest Walmart to get the oil changed. would not know a break pad from a shoe. So is there a difference, yep there sure is. Again not all Millennial fit this but many many do. It works the other ways also. Many older people pre boomer gen, the greatest gen, think Marijuana is a gate way drug and you are a hippie addict if you use it. Some of their views are very antiquated and just wrong. They are very set many times in their way of thinking. |
Originally Posted by Redoilokie
(Post 17506022)
In all fairness, the EPA guidelines and enforcement are light years beyond what they were when most of us learned to drive, and work on our own cars. Not to mention HOA asshole neighbors.
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Originally Posted by edteach
(Post 17506050)
I live in a strict HOA and change my own oil, and just did the rear breaks on my Tacoma. Drums. There was swerving with the springs. I get you are not going to use a cherry picker and pull an eng.
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Originally Posted by Redoilokie
(Post 17506060)
Did you pull it over the ditch and just let it drain?
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That old motor oil sure does a job on termites and other unwanted insects. When I was a kid my buddy's brother was a very competent wrench working on autos in the back yard. He would dump the oil on one particular tree in the yard. The tree was a rare Chinese apple tree and it flourished, never a pest problem. The workers at the Chinese restaurant around the corner knew of the tree and would come asking for apples every year. It was the early 70's, there was no collection program. Are today's big-business poisons safer?
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Originally Posted by StoneyFatBoy
(Post 17366616)
I’m a young guy 32 I’ve bought 3 bikes in the last 6 years but they’ve all been new from a dealership. I don’t trust private sales and why would I buy a used bike with a bunch of mods I don’t want at 90% of the price of a brand new bike ? Hell when I was first looking for a fatboy lo all I could find on the used market was very ugly bikes covered in chrome and most people were actually asking for the same or more than what a new bike would cost. Not to mention now that the use bike market is flooded with people who impulse bought a harley got 500-1000 miles on it and then changed their mind |
Originally Posted by AJSHOVEL
(Post 17505770)
I agree, but with one exception.... country kids, at least in my area, still are raised the old school way. Taught through example to do for themselves, work hard, fix their own shit.... and this has served them well. The world is their oyster right now because there is no competition from their urban brethren.
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Originally Posted by Redoilokie
(Post 17505971)
The fact that your hurt feelings lead you to constantly post in millennial threads lends a little credibility to the theory. Just saying.
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Dear Harley Davidson, you need to read this. Suggestion from New Gen Harley Rider
I always liked Harley Davidson bikes, but to me, it seemed like you needed to buy into the so-called "biker lifestyle" I just wanted to ride. The truth is, there is a large number of Harley riders that are the same way. It seems as if Harley only marketed to a small percentage of riders and forgot about what makes their Motorcycles so great. I used to sale Motorcycles and I owned several sport bikes before my first Harley. My Dad has been riding Harley Davidson Motorcycles for over 50 years. Most of my life there has been a Harley in the garage. When it came time for me to buy a bike I wanted something different. I went with a Suzuki GSXR 750, from there I've had several sport bikes. I was the guy who rode sport bikes with all the Harleys. You may have one in your group. My whole Family rode Harley Davidson Bikes. My Dad rode a Road King, My Brother rode a Night Train, My Sister Rode a V Rod, My Uncle rode a Road King and my other Uncle rode an Ultra. I would ride my Suzuki with them on rides. I remember one Daytona bike week, we all went down and stayed in St Augustine FL and rode to Daytona every day. We took A1A, it was the best part of my trip. I enjoyed seeing all the bikes, but the ride with my family alongside the coast seeing the beach was the best part for me. We had to stop every morning and wait while they shined there bikes. After years of riding sport bikes, I wanted something cool and more comfortable for my wife. I bought a Street Glide, and I can say I've enjoyed every minute of it. It's allowed me to ride further and much more comfortable, however after about 350 miles my left shoulder hurts. Im 6 foot 5 and my bars are rolled up to clear my knees when I turn sharply. I think its a handlebar issue, I may have to buy something different. I plan to ride from Tennessee to California with my 73-year-old dad, he turns 74 in August and he just bought a New Ultra. I plan to post videos on my youtube channel Traveling Tall of the ride. Heres my point, there is more than one type of Harley rider. Some buy Harleys because status, some buy Harley because of camaraderie amongst friends, some buy for looks, some buy for nostalgia and so on and so on. None of these things are wrong, buy it for whatever reason you want. But for me it was the ride, some look, ok more than some look 30 percent look 70 percent ride. Most importantly the ride. In conclusion, riding for bar to bar doesn't interest me, I don't drink. I'm not judging those who do, it is their business. Sitting in the parking lot staring at a bunch of Motorcycles at a Bike night, gets old pretty quick, after about 10 minutes of that is about all I can take. I just want to ride, whether it be by myself are with a group. To look over the handlebars and see the scenery change is what makes me happy. Harley Davidson, if your listening that's how you market to the Next Generation Harley riders, the freedom of the open road, the spirit of travel and the joy of the journey. It's not some much about the events, its the adventure. Millenials have a to be unique, most will not be defined by a brand. You won't see a millennial wearing Harley boots, Harley shirt, Harley glasses, Harley pants and wallet, drinking out of a Harley mug. You may see them with some of those items but not fully dressed in Harley from head to toe like the older generation. No disrespect for the Older Generation. Many wear Vans and Chucks and maybe one or two of the other items. Again Harley sell them on the ride, as an additive to their lifestyle, not a whole prepackaged concept of what biker life is. Then I believe your sells will increase. No offense to anyone, this is just my opinion.
Thanks for reading. God Bless Traveling Tall |
Originally Posted by Studlintsean
(Post 17505892)
Can’t change a light bulb? Most never rode a bicycle? You don’t really believe this do you? I agree today’s generation is different but most millennials were born in the 80s and early 90s and video games were nothing like they are today. To generalize an entire generation is a bit ridiculous. This last week I painted my entire main level of the house, built some furniture for a nursery, rode a few hundred miles, cut the grass, worked as an accountant, drank some good beers at a brewery and by a bonfire, watched zero TV, and played zero video games. Maybe I’m just the exception. |
Originally Posted by StoneyFatBoy
(Post 17369382)
what was gen x supposed to do .... I don’t know maybe don’t buy things you can’t afford put off starting a family until you’re in a better place financially instead of as a recent graduate read all the details behind a sub-prime mortgage maybe Listen to Dave Ramsey once in awhile |
Originally Posted by edteach
(Post 17366537)
Not true on Softail not handling well. I just rode my brothers 45 miles to the shop for service and back. Handled very well. I was surprised because I have heard this before. My Dyna is not any better. My bike also has more noticeable vibration.
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Originally Posted by JB Johnson
(Post 17507200)
That's one reason why I have a Dyna, the Dyna shake!
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