Maybe it's just me?
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I've been meaning to post this for a while now and then it happened again yesterday and told myself now's the time.
I ride back and forth to work most days and the route I take is almost all little 2 lane country roads. Now that the weather has turned around here, there are many more bikes out.
My habit is always when I'm riding to stay in the left part of my lane. Learned that from somewhere many years ago and it's just automatic for me.
When I approach another bike from behind, if he's riding in the left part of the lane, I automatically move over and ride in the right part of the lane. Staggered so that he/she can see me.
But I can't tell you how many people approach me from behind and the proceed to follow me in the left part of the lane. I let it go for about 15 seconds and then I move to the right side of the lane so we are staggered. That just feel really weird to me. Lead bike to the right and bike behind me to the left. I've even had a few times where the bike behind me moves to the right as well and would basically follow me no matter where I was in the lane.
Anytime anyone does this I always chalk it up to them being a new rider, but I'm wondering if there is some new technique out there that is being taught and I'm the old fart who is out of touch. I was taught many many years ago that the reason you stagger is so the bike in front of you has a clear view of you in one of his rear views either left or right and if the bike in front has to quick stop, the bike behind is not plowing into the front bike.
I'm willing to learn so if I'm doing it wrong someone please school me.
I ride back and forth to work most days and the route I take is almost all little 2 lane country roads. Now that the weather has turned around here, there are many more bikes out.
My habit is always when I'm riding to stay in the left part of my lane. Learned that from somewhere many years ago and it's just automatic for me.
When I approach another bike from behind, if he's riding in the left part of the lane, I automatically move over and ride in the right part of the lane. Staggered so that he/she can see me.
But I can't tell you how many people approach me from behind and the proceed to follow me in the left part of the lane. I let it go for about 15 seconds and then I move to the right side of the lane so we are staggered. That just feel really weird to me. Lead bike to the right and bike behind me to the left. I've even had a few times where the bike behind me moves to the right as well and would basically follow me no matter where I was in the lane.
Anytime anyone does this I always chalk it up to them being a new rider, but I'm wondering if there is some new technique out there that is being taught and I'm the old fart who is out of touch. I was taught many many years ago that the reason you stagger is so the bike in front of you has a clear view of you in one of his rear views either left or right and if the bike in front has to quick stop, the bike behind is not plowing into the front bike.
I'm willing to learn so if I'm doing it wrong someone please school me.
A motorcyclist should always ride in the left portion of a lane.
This does 2 things.
1. It gives the rider the most visibility of traffic ahead (and also being seen), and
2. It allows a larger "cushion" as you're passing parked cars (either parallel or diagonal.)
Never "side-by-side" (except at a redlight, fully stopped), as that leaves no chance for an evasive maneuver.
This we teach in "Formation 101" at the local HD dealership. Wish it was available industry wide. There are many other tenants also.
I wish we could teach this in the BRC in the classroom, at least. (Gotta stick to a curriculum. (In my very first class, it was motorcycle drag racing launching, believe it or not!))
Stagger 2 seconds following distance behind the bike in front of you, 1 second following to the bike that's diagonal to you. It makes for a safer ride.
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mctraveler (05-23-2018)
#12
Scared the hell out of me because the GW was so quiet and you don't expect a retard move like that under those circumstances.
I wanted to stab him
#13
Agreed. Once I even had a Gold Wing pass me on the right (in my own lane) on a residential street in front of a school (20 mph) zone.
Scared the hell out of me because the GW was so quiet and you don't expect a retard move like that under those circumstances.
I wanted to stab him
Scared the hell out of me because the GW was so quiet and you don't expect a retard move like that under those circumstances.
I wanted to stab him
#14
Riding staggered is a technique to make more efficient use of space, not to make it easier to be seen. Riding staggered makes it possible to get more bikes in the same space while not giving up braking distance. In groups, it is a way to keep everyone together, but in my opinion is not very safe and for novice riders, it can be very difficult to maintain the formation. Experienced riders can even get away with riding side-by-side, but is illegal in some states and for good reason: it limits the rider's ability to make emergency maneuvers. I automatically swing to the opposite side of the lane of a slower rider in front of me to avoid "tailgating", giving me ample room to brake, while also giving myself a chance to safely pass when the opportunity comes.
But I can't tell you how many people approach me from behind and the proceed to follow me in the left part of the lane. I let it go for about 15 seconds and then I move to the right side of the lane so we are staggered. That just feel really weird to me. Lead bike to the right and bike behind me to the left. I've even had a few times where the bike behind me moves to the right as well and would basically follow me no matter where I was in the lane.
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I pretty much follow the Op train of thought. The Only Exception would be is if I'm in a heavily congested City. Then if I'm following a bike that appears to be a local I will follow in there tire tracks. They tend to know where the potholes and the bumps and where to avoid are
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A more experienced rider than I am once told me that he stays in the right tire track on two lane roads. His reason being is that a vehicle coming towards you might have another vehicle close behind them wanting to pass. If the vehicle behind tries to pass the vehicle in front, you're likely to be seen sooner by the passing vehicle if you're in the right tire track. I had never thought of that since I almost always ride in the left tire track. I thought it made a lot of sense.
As far as a rider directly behind me in the same tire track, I always switch to the opposite tire track.
As far as a rider directly behind me in the same tire track, I always switch to the opposite tire track.
Last edited by GalvTexGuy; 05-23-2018 at 05:20 PM.