Harley Pan America 1250
#171
I've thought about trading my R1100GS in on a 2018 R1200GS but maybe I'll wait and see what the Pan American is all about.
#172
#173
These are nothing like Buells. I had several of them. Never quite up to the fit and finish of HD's. We saw Eric's adventure bike. It was just another Buell with different plastics. The new HD adventure bike looks way better in every way. Kudos to HD for the new ones.
#174
I was interested in the Pan America, but I didn't like the weight and styling. I considered a BMW GS and KTM Adventure but they were too appliance-like. I wound up buying this 2008 Buell Ulysses XB12X with just 7k miles. It weighs 425 pounds. The 1203cc engine produces 103 hp with 84 lb-ft torque. Handling and performance is like a sportbike. Luggage is detachable.
Funny how Harley has gone full circle. They had the opportunity to retain the Ulysses when they dumped Buell. Now that adventure bikes are selling, they want back in.
Funny how Harley has gone full circle. They had the opportunity to retain the Ulysses when they dumped Buell. Now that adventure bikes are selling, they want back in.
#176
I worked at a dealership in the early '70s that sold Montessa and Hodakas. Hodaka came out with a 250 Enduro that looked pretty interesting on paper. It had the right bells and whistles for that era. Once it got to the shop and we unpacked it, it was nothing like it appeared in its pamphlets. It was heavy, awkward, and was not designed by enduro riders. It looked the part but it was no where near a true enduro bike. I hope Harley did its homework and this bike is a good one unlike the Johnny come lately Hodaka.
#177
This will be like Ford or GM launching an SUV to compete with Jeep. The 'adventurous' Jeep goes beyond the tangible. Those SUV's have been light years ahead in road behavior and pricing but the desire for a Jeep as the ultimate beast has not waned.
I am not actually bashing the bike or the effort. I actually want one. I just hope HD is doing their homework and not setting this up for a 2 -year model run and then bailing!
#179
425 is the bare weight. Here are some specs for you.
https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2...ulysses-review
#180
Then there's Harley whose monied demographic is aging out, trying to get youthful with electric bikes and thinks their overpriced substandard quality will be over shadowed by nice paint and chrome to those who can't afford their products. Now with outrageous chopped yesterdays news, cafe's waning, sport touring bikes not even a blip anymore and adventure bikes all the rage, they are left with their rears flapping in the wind.
This thinking is why GM is closing plants. Trying to turn the iceburg around the Titanic. Great business plan.
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