I wish Harley success as endeavor will take big cojones and a lot of money.

However, Harley has always been a company that leaves too much out of their bikes knowing that their owners will likely add it or modify them. This is not going to work with these new bikes and new market. H-Ds competitors for this market and this class of bikes already make some phenomenal bikes loaded with all sorts of advanced technology and power and at a lower price. Harley can't even add a 50 cent helmet lock to their bikes, much less LED lighting that has been around for over a decade now.

 

I actually like it. Harley is jumping into a very deep and competive pool, claiming the streetfighter will run with some seriously wicked bikes such as the BMW S1000R. They better bring their 'A' game and way more than 120hp. I seriously hope they do. Will have to wait n see.

 

All I see is another failure and like another poster said bikes sitting at dealers collecting dust. You know its not going to be all it can be out of the gate. Stage kits and doodads etc to make it what you can get stock from the competition thats been making this type of bike for years. Another red headed stepchild like Buell.

 

They'll do well if they're competitive. They may lose a bit of $ at 1st to keep the prices in line with others but it'll turn out good if they move a lot of them.

 

HAHAHAHA... Not laughing at you, but at Harley's claims that i will run with the S1000RR.

I hope you and they are right.

They are going to need 200+ hp, the best electronics in the class, great suspension and crazy good ergo's to boot, to compete with the S1000RR.

I dont see any of that happening.

Dont get me wrong, I kind of want one of these, but to think they will compete with the S1000RR is laughable. That bike is IMO in the top 3 of super bikes right now.

 

People expecting HD to bring something like the Streetfighter in at 10K are being unrealistic. The Ducati 1200 Monster starts at 15K

https://www.ducati.com/us/en/bikes/monster/monster-1200

 

If you look closely you can see it is belt drive but using new invisible belt technology!

 

Yeah I don't think it will be anywhere near the 10K mark like the FZ(MT)-09, XSR900 or similar bikes .

 

However, Harley has always been a company that leaves too much out of their bikes knowing that their owners will likely add it or modify them. This is not going to work with these new bikes and new market. H-Ds competitors for this market and this class of bikes already make some phenomenal bikes loaded with all sorts of advanced technology and power and at a lower price. Harley can't even add a 50 cent helmet lock to their bikes, much less LED lighting that has been around for over a decade now.

You got it. For decades HD has gotten away with their mind set which as you alluded to is not going to work anymore because their new bikes they're showing are not designed for many alterations. Look at HD's catalog. What 890+ pages? As for LED lights? That is w/o a doubt intentional. They want to appease their pride and true rawhide type riders who don't like modern technology.

 

Totally agree, I read the same thing in several articles and also found it laughable. Would be a miracle if they pulled it off.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxne...ycles.amp.html
"The 975 Streetfighter is a performance motorcycle aimed to compete with the likes of the BMW S1000R and Suzuki GSX-S1000"