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Old 10-11-2018, 03:43 PM
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I heard that if you get it from the Dealer, the nitrogen molecules look like little bar & shield logos.
Go ahead. Get a microscope and check.

(I think they put the green caps on to let everybody know who's dumb enough to pay $60 for nitrogen.)
 
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Old 10-11-2018, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RHPAW
I heard that if you get it from the Dealer, the nitrogen molecules look like little bar & shield logos.
Go ahead. Get a microscope and check.

(I think they put the green caps on to let everybody know who's dumb enough to pay $60 for nitrogen.)
No ****, I was working in a garage years ago. I had a guys Dodge pickup on the lift doing a State Inspection. The owner was talking alot of **** like fellas do to a garage mechanic. At one point he says" yeah the tires have Nitrogen in 'em. Its what they use in NASCAR" I looked at him serious like the ******** I was back then and said "yeah?, this isn't a NASCAR race car..."
 
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Originally Posted by J_MOSH
Everyday consumer use of nitrogen is a scam. I know most race teams use it because of its lesser expansion with heat. Car rolls out with 80 degree tires (ambiant) at let's say 25 pounds of pressure. After a warm up/pace lap, tires are at 150 degrees and 30 psi and at this point are not 100% safe to kick the snot out of but won't roll off the rim. After 1 semi-into it lap they are at 250 degrees and 38-40 psi and can take some real abuse. (These are ball park #s based on experience, but im not selling trade info here. Auto cross guys should just set full pressure and run it, your not out long enough to build notable heat) same scenario but with air and the pressure swing is far far greater and would almost require you to head out with 15 psi and that's a sure fire way to break a bead loose before the fun starts. Situations like this we typically will never seen on our bikes. I've felt my tires after a lengthy highway run and they don't get very warm, 120 degrees maybe. So the pressure fluctuation is negligible. And as far as leaking..... If you have a leak its gonna leak period. I have seen many nitrogen inflated tires loose air.

I can almost assume that the aviation use of nitrogen is done for a similar reason to the race use of it. It makes sense. But again, these aren't situations your bike will likely ever see under normal use. When's the last time your bike saw a 20-30,000 foot elevation change in a day much less its lifetime. My .02.
Bingo. Nitrogen is more thermally stable than "pure air" and that is why its used in aviation. Its also dry and inert, so it will not contribute to rim corrosion issues. Nitrogen in normal automotive or motorcycle use is snake oil.
 
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70% is free. So, I guess it's the other stuff that leaks out?.. Snake oil.
 
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Nitrogen-two advantages. nothing to do with bike tires
1, - You can get 2000 lbs pressure from it-
So its great for accumulators and such.
2, - There is no moisture it to rot tires, so aircraft use it.
3, you can buy a tank at the weld shop for nothing last time I looked.
So the 60 dollars for HD is another RIP-OFF and might as well call it an "SE stage kit "
I am sure they have the nitrogen molecules chrome plated..
Congrats to HD for another customer rape of the wallet job.
You pissed at them yet?
 
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If moisture rots the inside of a synthetic rubber tire, how do they protect the outside?
 
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Originally Posted by cacomly
Is there summer nitrogen and winter nitrogen???
I think that the green caps indicate summertime nitrogen. Crap..... maybe it's the green is wintertime. I don't know.
 
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The biggest scam in the automotive market. Keep your money in your wallet.
 
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If you feel you have to use N2 just buy a bottle .it will fill a LOT of tires
There is 2000 lbs in them
I would guess 20 to 100 tires depending on what size you bought.
But 60 bucks a whack at the HD shop is a RIP OFF!



https://www.ebay.com/bhp/nitrogen-cylinder
 
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