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roadmutt 02-11-2019 02:54 PM

No more factory open house on York Bike Night
 
“A spokesman for Harley Davidson tells us the decision to end the open house is connected to their growth plan designed to help build the next generation of Harley riders.”

https://fox43.com/2019/02/07/harley-...s-planned/amp/

6113_ 02-11-2019 02:58 PM

If you’re trying to entice customers, limiting access is a sure path to success

Neggy ZRXOA 5248 02-11-2019 03:11 PM

another F.U. directed at the customer by the MOCO

2whlr4life 02-11-2019 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by 6113_ (Post 18028320)
If you’re trying to entice customers, limiting access is a sure path to success


Maybe open houses in Thailand or ?...

FNGonaRK 02-11-2019 03:31 PM

So the factory is still doing tours M-F. They are expanding the bike night into bike week (making the Saturday closure a non-issue), but they still aren't doing tours as part of the bike week? I'm confused.

Oko 02-11-2019 03:56 PM

I smell a corporate weasel making this decision, and thus earning his yearly bonus for saving HD money.

Tarkus60 02-11-2019 04:08 PM

Revolution is the only answer.....

username already exists 02-11-2019 04:48 PM

:icon_smallest:
With York being named the home of LiveWire production and the overwhelming support of that project by "bike night" types, I'm not sure I understand what everyone is upset about. :icon_denk:

I live about an hour away. I have NO interest in spending money in York since the city shut down one of the best cushion tracks in the east at the York Fairgrounds because of noise complaints. One race a year, a daytime race that was finished up in time for everyone to go to a nice YORK restaurant for dinner. One day - the week following the week-long, day & night York Fair!!! With that in mind, (noise complaints) this whole event is probably on borrowed time in York anyway.

TheMurf 02-11-2019 05:10 PM

Open house
 
Let's see,if they close open house at York,I wonder how much the local economy will feel it ? Restaurants,hotels, vendors, gas stations,local Harley dealers in the area were folks visit. Another great move. Is it the politicians that are making the call or Harley brain trust ? Sad state of affairs. I wonder if Harley will be at Dayton and Sturgis this year ?

TwiZted Biker 02-12-2019 07:40 AM

Cost cutting move, more corporate weasel speak for belt tightening. Sad part is they think the general public is dumb enough not to see it for what it really is.

FNGonaRK 02-12-2019 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker (Post 18029798)
Cost cutting move, more corporate weasel speak for belt tightening. Sad part is they think the general public is dumb enough not to see it for what it really is.

I totally get that and sometimes a business has to do things customers don't like to survive, but why couldn't the day just be shifted to save some face. I mean the people there for "Bike Week" will come do the tour during the M-F anyway. Make it official and schedule a day, offer a discount, etc.

touchdown 02-12-2019 09:14 AM

Live near by don't give a shit

Back-n-Black 02-12-2019 09:23 AM

So Millennials don't mingle?

Bubba Zanetti 02-12-2019 10:38 AM

York is a shithole anyway. I live less than 30 minutes away and I avoid that city as much as possible. I wont miss the HD tour and if York city rolled up the sidewalk and closed shop I wouldn't miss it either.

Oko 02-12-2019 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Bubba Zanetti (Post 18030258)
York is a shithole anyway. I live less than 30 minutes away and I avoid that city as much as possible. I wont miss the HD tour and if York city rolled up the sidewalk and closed shop I wouldn't miss it either.

No Bubba, c’mon, now tell us how you REALLY feel. 🤣

Frostbite 02-12-2019 10:56 AM

Hard to entice them new folks if you've got a bunch of gray haired pot belly old farts hanging around all the time... :)

TwiZted Biker 02-12-2019 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by FNGonaRK (Post 18029849)
I totally get that and sometimes a business has to do things customers don't like to survive, but why couldn't the day just be shifted to save some face. I mean the people there for "Bike Week" will come do the tour during the M-F anyway. Make it official and schedule a day, offer a discount, etc.

Another thought is could be things going on in the plant they don't want public right now , be it new stuff coming or the big influx of Chinese packaging for parts.

TheMurf 02-12-2019 12:02 PM

Open house
 
Yeah, too bad the pot belly gray haired old farts are the one that kept Harley out of bankruptcy .Lets see maybe that can attract minllinals by offering free jobs, food, free collage paid for by the motor company and free live wires for all! Don't forget to take the new high speed rail system across the country because there will be no cars,buses or jets to get you to P. A. Not to be negative but comments about us old farts but it doesn't help with the bottom line at Harley especially when many of us bought many new Harley's and paid for them outright.

Almostinvincible119 02-12-2019 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by TheMurf (Post 18030476)
Yeah, too bad the pot belly gray haired old farts are the one that kept Harley out of bankruptcy .Lets see maybe that can attract minllinals by offering free jobs, food, free collage paid for by the motor company and free live wires for all! Don't forget to take the new high speed rail system across the country because there will be no cars,buses or jets to get you to P. A. Not to be negative but comments about us old farts but it doesn't help with the bottom line at Harley especially when many of us bought many new Harley's and paid for them outright.

What is a "free job?"

Is this one of those socialist programs that lets me work for no incentive other than the betterment of my community and country, all the while allowing everything else (grocery, medical care, living expenses and education) to just be "free"?

TheMurf 02-12-2019 01:49 PM

Open house
 
Free job to me means the substanable wage, free to everyone who chooses not to work. Part of the new Green Deal proposed by the new national socialist party.. The Democrats That to me equates to a free job, sit on your ass, do nothing and get a pay check. Sorry for any confusion. Don't know how the motor company expects to attract some of these kids to ride when they expect someone else to pay for everything. Just miffed at some of the decisions and stupid comments being made by some of the leadership at the company. Knee jerk reactions in my opinion. Sorry.

470004 02-13-2019 08:20 AM

Bad move on the MOCO.

username already exists 02-13-2019 03:44 PM

Well, that discussion went down the political :icon_toliet: pretty quickly.

I admire those who still put a lot of effort into such events to aid their communities, but face it, "bike night" events have passed their prime... along with their usual attendees. :icon_laugh:
When the hotel buffet is a bigger draw than the wet tee shirt contest, it's time to start calling these events something else. And uh, there ain't many 60 year-old women anybody wants to see in a wet tee shirt anyhow. :icon_hide:
Wipe the red outta your eyes boys. I'm one of ya! Just pointing out the facts.

Here's something else you won't see in York anymore! WFO racing on one of the best cushion tracks in the east. Thanks city of York. :icon_badrazz:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hdf...1ffa427d7a.jpg

Almostinvincible119 02-14-2019 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by TheMurf (Post 18030707)
Free job to me means the substanable wage, sit on your ass, do nothing and get a pay check.....Sorry for any confusion. Knee jerk reactions in my opinion. Sorry.

Don't be sorry. Sounds to me like you just described a Professional American Politician

roadmutt 02-15-2019 09:21 AM

I didn't take that statement so much as a diss to the current customer base but corporate weasel speak for "we're saving money."

In addition to factory tours, the open house had factory demo rides. Since you have to hand over your life story and a DNA sample to get one of the little cards, they have a shit ton of data from it. Probably looked at the overall expense of that day plus how many of those demo rides turned into actual sales, and decided the return on investment wasn't there to justify it.

Too bad, but life goes on. Like Michael Corleone said: it's not personal, it's strictly business.


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