Let’s talk about the New LFP battery that Harley is selling
#31
02-14-2019, 04:16 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
#32
02-14-2019, 05:56 PM
The new lithium iron battery / liFe battery
I put one in my 2013 Night Rod Special, never any problems just saved a bunch of weight. Weight is horsepower.
Shorai
Shorai
But the light weight of this battery is just unreal in a bad way . I guess time will tell us if it will live up to any long term bragging rights to being any better then the standard lithium ion battery .
Last edited by Iron lHorse; 02-14-2019 at 06:21 PM.
#33
02-14-2019, 06:28 PM
#34
02-14-2019, 06:58 PM
Its gotta be the LiFePo battery. Lithium ion batteries would never be approved for automotive use. You cant even ship them by air- they are too unstable and too easily damaged. Remember the Samsung fires a couple years ago? Lithium ion. Remember years ago when that aircraft nosedived into a florida swamp? Fire onboard from lithium ion batteries as cargo.
#35
02-14-2019, 08:52 PM
I've been using Shorai for a couple years. Sure like the adapter mounting carrier for it that the HD has. Not sold separately. I left the switch on over night a couple months ago. It does require a special charger/tender. Charged up and works like a champ. I don't tend it unless I won't be riding for a couple weeks = not yet.
#36
02-15-2019, 02:34 PM
Novice
Just stopped by me local dealer (shout out Thunder Road Harley in Windsor, ON...awesome dealership, mom and pop shop type place) they had one of these on the shelf. It's so light it's crazy, like picking up an empty tupperware container. Yes, it is a 2X the cost of a new AGM battery but if you did any $$ performance upgrades and don't change to this battery it makes no sense. I will be getting one in the spring and can post results during the year.
#37
02-15-2019, 03:10 PM
Elite HDF Member
I will say this, I bought that exact battery last summer and it turned my new high compression 131 over no problem. HOWEVER, once it got cold, and I mean cold in CA terms so 40s-50s, the batter wouldn't turn for ****. I had to try and start it about 5 times, each time sounding and acting like a dead batter, before all of a sudden it would just power up like normal. Did some research and found that ion batteries have to "warm up" which is why it was acting the way it was. So those CCA (cold cranking amps) numbers mean more than anything in my opinion. Nobody seems to talk about this as they are still somewhat new to full size applications. I returned it at battery and bulbs for a full refund, about $250, and ordered a Wicked start from Renegade Batteries with 600+ cca. Turns everything over no problem now no matter how cold.
Unless this new Harley battery addresses this I see a lot of pissed off people trying to return their batteries once winter comes again, and we all know Harley isn't the best at returning anything electrical related.
Unless this new Harley battery addresses this I see a lot of pissed off people trying to return their batteries once winter comes again, and we all know Harley isn't the best at returning anything electrical related.
Last edited by Indawynd; 02-15-2019 at 03:11 PM.
#38
02-15-2019, 03:41 PM
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My bike battery also needs to be replaced this spring because it’s 6 years old and I know it’s weak . And besides buying the advanced battery ,I will also need the new type of charger for it .
So my thinking is I’ll spend $115 on a good Duracell AGM battery at Battery Plus this April. And by the time it’s done in 5 or 6 years maybe the price of these NEW lithium iron phosphate batteries will drop in price by a good $75 or $100 bucks .
And by then there will be more aftermarket manufacturers make them and many more reviews on this new type of battery .
Also the crazy lightness of it just makes no sense. So that alone is stopping me from liking it !
Just stopped by me local dealer (shout out Thunder Road Harley in Windsor, ON...awesome dealership, mom and pop shop type place) they had one of these on the shelf. It's so light it's crazy, like picking up an empty tupperware container. Yes, it is a 2X the cost of a new AGM battery but if you did any $$ performance upgrades and don't change to this battery it makes no sense. I will be getting one in the spring and can post results during the year.
So my thinking is I’ll spend $115 on a good Duracell AGM battery at Battery Plus this April. And by the time it’s done in 5 or 6 years maybe the price of these NEW lithium iron phosphate batteries will drop in price by a good $75 or $100 bucks .
And by then there will be more aftermarket manufacturers make them and many more reviews on this new type of battery .
Also the crazy lightness of it just makes no sense. So that alone is stopping me from liking it !
Last edited by Iron lHorse; 02-15-2019 at 03:46 PM. Reason: speling
#39
02-15-2019, 04:32 PM
Road Captain
#40
02-15-2019, 04:45 PM
Club Member
Yup leave the lights on for 60-90 seconds to wake them up, I run the Antigravity 600cca. Lith ion, only thing that will turn over the shovel with no compression releases.
