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Old 03-27-2019, 07:05 PM
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Contract is up soon.

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I've been self employed for almost 30 years. Guess how many raises I got? When my shop was doing well, I did well and so did my help. When it wasn't, I had to keep showing up and putting in the work until it was doing better.
Sometimes I think the rank and file might be a little too insulated from the realities of business.
 
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Well, if you're making fewer bikes, you need fewer people. Simple math.
 
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Well, if you're making fewer bikes, you need fewer people. Simple math.
Yup. Time for the union leadership to earn their dues.
 
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Yup. Time for the union leadership to earn their dues.
I'm not confident.

https://www.google.com/search?client...iz.pdSNKLLYRN8
 
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SEVEN (!!!!) Year wage freeze in 2012?

That is a a 23% wage concession, plus increased medical costs transferred to the employees.

I'd be pissed too
 
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Reality is the company is not doing well. If they're not selling bikes, they're not going to be able to raise prices and pay higher wages. Might be time to get into something that pays better.
 
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Originally Posted by Neggy ZRXOA 5248
SEVEN (!!!!) Year wage freeze in 2012?

That is a a 23% wage concession, plus increased medical costs transferred to the employees.

I'd be pissed too
sounds like my job. i haven't had a pay raise in a few years either. every year, costs go up, paycheck don't.
 
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Yup. Time for the union leadership to earn their dues.
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Actually, time for the unions to really understand how businesses work. Non union professional employees are constantly being hired & layed off depending upon business economics. Unions need to respond appropriately that jobs and benefits can not be guaranteed, else they are lost to overseas labor.
 
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Yup. Time for the union leadership to earn their dues.
Union people need to follow the money. Union leadership is a joke. They make money for the union upper echelon, not the workers.

I had the pleasure of running union boys outta the bars I hung out. After their union "brothers" threatened my 65 year old dad, who ran a one man shop. The union reps and 'leaders' did nothing. So I found the three union members and "requested" that they repeated the threats to me, a 38 year old retired Marine. I had fun, they didn't seem to enjoy the "conversation" much. Apparently, threatening a elderly man on company property is safer than threatening someone in a bar. I also informed the union reps at the job location. Never heard anything. And I gave them my contact information.

And people wonder why I dislike most union folks.
 
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If unions actually cared about their members they would prepare them for life AFTER Harley.

The writing is on the wall. Harley is contracting and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

Instead the union will act like Harley is sitting on a pile of gold.
 
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