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carmencip Sep 6, 2009 06:36 AM

Harley's new Synthetic Blend Oil
 
Changed my oil in the SG yesterday and tried this new Harley oil. It's two bucks cheaper per quart then the Syn3 and can only be used in the engine cavity. I ran about 100 miles and the oil temp was running the same as with the Syn3.

Anyone hear any feedback about this blended synthetic? Good or Bad?

My dealer said they just got it in....asked me to let them know if I liked it.

oct1949 Sep 6, 2009 06:45 AM

Dont know what it is, haven't seen it yet.

others have posted this info and most thought it was the old light brown bottle syn3 they were talking about???

HD syn3 oil is a blend, its not a true syn oil anyway so its confusing on why they now are selling one that is called a blended syn oil....

cHarley Sep 6, 2009 07:41 AM

IMO, it's just one more change in marketing strategy from the MoCo. First, synthetic oils were going to destroy our motors. Then, HD comes out with Syn3 and synthetic Motor Oil is not only OK but we're supposed to pour it in all 3 holes. Next comes a shift away from recommending Syn3 in all 3 holes as the preferred choice, it's Formula+ for the tranny. It seems to me that the new (partially) synthetic motor oil is MoCo's way of quietly backing away from the one oil in all three holes concept, which IMO, was a bad idea from the start. The motor and tranny are very different environments, and the the oils used in them require different additive packages.

Unlike name brand oils, HD oils for the most part are "mystery" products with little technical information available on what's inside the bottle. Just try and find simple viscosity info on Formula+ or their fork oils, let alone any info on the additive packages.

No thanks, I'll pass on all of it and stick with proven, fully synthetic, name brand products, for which technical info on the product is readily available.

HD oil products are for sheepeoples.

:cool:

carpetride Sep 6, 2009 07:46 AM

I've found that it makes for a great dessert topping.

oct1949 Sep 6, 2009 07:59 AM

Probably right on with the marketing.. Most newly improved products have the new increased price that goes with them...
Maybe HD is just trying to get there price back down to match some of other brands and now are saying what the syn3 oil really is (a blend)...

Since oil has came down. its about time motor oil dropped in price also. Didn't take them long last yr to raise it when the barrel price was up.

Harley Joe Sep 6, 2009 08:45 AM

When I discovered that H-D oils are made by CITGO...I drained all mine out and went with Mobil-1 V-Twin FULLY synthetic oil for about $7.50 per qt. I just can't bring myself to "knowingly" use any CITGO product.

harleydavis Sep 6, 2009 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by cHarley (Post 5541297)
IMO, it's just one more change in marketing strategy from the MoCo. First, synthetic oils were going to destroy our motors. Then, HD comes out with Syn3 and synthetic Motor Oil is not only OK but we're supposed to pour it in all 3 holes. Next comes a shift away from recommending Syn3 in all 3 holes as the preferred choice, it's Formula+ for the tranny. It seems to me that the new (partially) synthetic motor oil is MoCo's way of quietly backing away from the one oil in all three holes concept, which IMO, was a bad idea from the start. The motor and tranny are very different environments, and the the oils used in them require different additive packages.

Unlike name brand oils, HD oils for the most part are "mystery" products with little technical information available on what's inside the bottle. Just try and find simple viscosity info on Formula+ or their fork oils, let alone any info on the additive packages.

No thanks, I'll pass on all of it and stick with proven, fully synthetic, name brand products, for which technical info on the product is readily available.

HD oil products are for sheepeoples.

:cool:

+1.....I prefer to know the viscosity of the oil I'm putting into my motor, tranny, primary, and forks!

bagman1 Sep 6, 2009 11:17 AM

You can just go to any dealer and ask for the MSDS sheet. By law they have to have one on file for each chemical. Its an OSHA and fire code thing.

cHarley Sep 6, 2009 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by bagman1 (Post 5542077)
You can just go to any dealer and ask for the MSDS sheet. By law they have to have one on file for each chemical. Its an OSHA and fire code thing.

Yea you can, but MSDS doesn't give you viscosity info, nor does it give you the quantities (in ppm) of the additives.

oct1949 Sep 6, 2009 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Harley Joe (Post 5541500)
When I discovered that H-D oils are made by CITGO...I drained all mine out and went with Mobil-1 V-Twin FULLY synthetic oil for about $7.50 per qt. I just can't bring myself to "knowingly" use any CITGO product.

Can't touch V-twin here for less than $9.35qt, unless U use the 15-50 for cars..still easy to get.


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