Serious patch question..
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From: Oregon
You know I have been riding for 5 years now. I used to be fearless and ride out to parts out in the backcountry by myself, just for the joy of the ride. Being totally ignorant as to what is really out there.
It really sucks now for me to know that there are all these 'rules' and such. I know they are true, but they suck. I am a free spirited woman and I want to ride free- but there is no doubt in my mind that doing so can end me up into some serious trouble I'd rather not deal with. Why does it have to be so ??
It really sucks now for me to know that there are all these 'rules' and such. I know they are true, but they suck. I am a free spirited woman and I want to ride free- but there is no doubt in my mind that doing so can end me up into some serious trouble I'd rather not deal with. Why does it have to be so ??
Read between the lines Violet, they are not out there looking for you or anyone else, unless you have crossed them. Enjoy your rides and don't worry. My guess (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) of your having a bad encounter with a club is about 1,000,000 to 1. JMHO
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From: El Cajon Ca.
You know I have been riding for 5 years now. I used to be fearless and ride out to parts out in the backcountry by myself, just for the joy of the ride. Being totally ignorant as to what is really out there.
It really sucks now for me to know that there are all these 'rules' and such. I know they are true, but they suck. I am a free spirited woman and I want to ride free- but there is no doubt in my mind that doing so can end me up into some serious trouble I'd rather not deal with. Why does it have to be so ??
It really sucks now for me to know that there are all these 'rules' and such. I know they are true, but they suck. I am a free spirited woman and I want to ride free- but there is no doubt in my mind that doing so can end me up into some serious trouble I'd rather not deal with. Why does it have to be so ??
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From: Temecula CA
I've been out riding minding my own biz and stopped out somewhere I didn't think twice only to realize that I am but a sheep amongst the wolves. Definately not a safe and secure feeling. I take comfort in that my bike is exceptionally fast and I am intuitive enough to know when I am in danger. I might also add that I like riding out to offbeat untraveled paths - or at least I used to. I realized real quick that this is just plain stupid unless you are out seeking trouble of which I am not.
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From: Denver, Colorado
I don't know why I enjoy these threads so much. My wife and I are ROFL about the Disney story. I know a few guys that ride with a club out in Cali and they are really cool, decent fellows in my experience.
One experience I had out of many. I bumped into some guys from a local chapter of a worldwide MC that wears red and gold and they were nothing but respectful due to my obvious respect. They complemented my bike as I did theirs. And I sat at the bar with them drinking a few beers and shooting the **** before I headed out for another few hours of canyon riding. That's all I have... the guys I've met were cool to me.
One experience I had out of many. I bumped into some guys from a local chapter of a worldwide MC that wears red and gold and they were nothing but respectful due to my obvious respect. They complemented my bike as I did theirs. And I sat at the bar with them drinking a few beers and shooting the **** before I headed out for another few hours of canyon riding. That's all I have... the guys I've met were cool to me.
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From: Fairmont, Wv
Ok I'm back. I have to respond. First someone stated that the patched members are cool guys and wouldent bother you unless you cross them. I have to agree with that. Now, these guys go through alot of bullshit for these patches... ALOT. Then their world changes forever, the mc and the patch is their life. These are their rules like a marine has rules of engagement.... you cant think why......you just do it!
Normaly these guys will not bother you unless you bother them. You want to wear a patch because it makes you look cool. This is where it bothers them, in their eyes you are mocking them, ibeit mickey mouse or jesus. you never earned that patch.
Normaly these guys will not bother you unless you bother them. You want to wear a patch because it makes you look cool. This is where it bothers them, in their eyes you are mocking them, ibeit mickey mouse or jesus. you never earned that patch.
man in every forum i belong to, this topic has been brought up or a variation there of , and every single time this topic comes up the thread goes the exact same way lol, for everyones interest, includignthe OP, http://www.rcvsmc.net/ some good reading for those who actully do not understand some things.
Violet your post in regards to beign concerned about supposed "rules" and not feelign secure, while i cant express anythign from a womans point of view as my plumbing is prohibits me fro mdoing so i can tell you that, that 9/10 times you will never have to worry about a fellow rider wether he/she is a PH or not, treat each other with respect and be courtusy and you will receive the same.
i think the scope of this thread has been lost in soem of the posturing post but tseek555 there has been several postss i nthis thread that have spoken from expierience and wisdom on this topic its a shame this topic always ends up in a muddsling contest as it is a common one brought up by many new riders well patch ettiqutte i ngeneral anyway is. liek isaid there is lots of info at the address listed if you want to learn more. i hope this post and my previous post was somewhat usefull to you.
Violet your post in regards to beign concerned about supposed "rules" and not feelign secure, while i cant express anythign from a womans point of view as my plumbing is prohibits me fro mdoing so i can tell you that, that 9/10 times you will never have to worry about a fellow rider wether he/she is a PH or not, treat each other with respect and be courtusy and you will receive the same.
i think the scope of this thread has been lost in soem of the posturing post but tseek555 there has been several postss i nthis thread that have spoken from expierience and wisdom on this topic its a shame this topic always ends up in a muddsling contest as it is a common one brought up by many new riders well patch ettiqutte i ngeneral anyway is. liek isaid there is lots of info at the address listed if you want to learn more. i hope this post and my previous post was somewhat usefull to you.
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From: Texas
I won't say the town I lived in for a while as a child, but I remember just on the rumor a 1% club was coming through town and they literally shut the highway down and were waiting. I suppose the feelings were we won't wear patches and you won't ride through our town.
Granted over the past 40 years since then attitudes have mellowed somewhat, I still would be wary of irritating some of the rural people in this state, they will not back down either. In some of these rural farming and ranching communities there is an even stronger brotherhood than any MC has even envisioned. Its a generational way of life, not just a club they joined.
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From: Belfast, Northern Ireland.
I understand your points but why does someone need to exert some control over the club scene? They are adults, they should be self-governing. What differentiates a 1% club from a group of teenage Crips or Bloods that defend their block from other neighborhood kids? In my opinion the only thing that differentiates them is the age group. I understand the camaraderie and brotherhood in a club but I dont understand why they try to claim a territory (which they dont own) or claim colors (again, which they dont own) and insist that others abide by their rules and guidelines. It just seems very childish. I can understand if someone creates a patch that outright disrespects a club but I dont understand why any MC has the right to tell any citizen what they can and cannot wear. If the OPs brother-in-law wants to wear a Christian patch then he should. End of story.
I'm not an American. I live in Ireland. We have some 1%ers knocking about, but if you don't look for them you could easily live your whole life without seeing one. I've no desire to wear a patch of any sort, but it amazes me that so many freedom loving Americans are willing to put up with opression by a lot of juvenile, self appointed "hard men".
You are prepared to send your sons half way around the world to defeat Talliban opression, but are prepared to allow neighbourhood thugs to tell you to take off your Mickey Mouse jacket. Would you allow the local Mullah to tell your wife to wear a headscarf? Would you listen if a police officer told you you can't wear an earring? You might respect the local Mullah, and local cop, but they don't have the authority because you live in a free country. Why bow to MC bikers? Is it simply fear? If so, is it not about time that the people of the USA put them out of business?
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You know I have been riding for 5 years now. I used to be fearless and ride out to parts out in the backcountry by myself, just for the joy of the ride. Being totally ignorant as to what is really out there.
It really sucks now for me to know that there are all these 'rules' and such. I know they are true, but they suck. I am a free spirited woman and I want to ride free- but there is no doubt in my mind that doing so can end me up into some serious trouble I'd rather not deal with. Why does it have to be so ??
It really sucks now for me to know that there are all these 'rules' and such. I know they are true, but they suck. I am a free spirited woman and I want to ride free- but there is no doubt in my mind that doing so can end me up into some serious trouble I'd rather not deal with. Why does it have to be so ??
If you try to look like a mc member, that is when it could be difficult.
Look at it this way, if you had a white road king and you dressed like a cop what would happen?
What would happen if you were to dress like a veteran with ribbons on the uniform? You would be arrested if you weren't a veteran who had EARNED those ribbons.
To all those who say they should be allowed to wear what they want....What if you wanted to wear a military uniform with a purple heart and a POW ribbon? Or a distinguished service cross...medal of valor??? If you never earned those, you'd go to prison...Plus there are some vets that would....um...you know....
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