First time wife rides, first time idiot pulls out in front...Keep tire locked up?
#12
I agree with most of the others, that you do not want the either of the tires to lock up, but if the rear does you have to stay with what you got, if the front does let go, then grab it again...
Good luck to you guys, I hope that you get better soon.
Thanks for sharing your story.
Phil
Good luck to you guys, I hope that you get better soon.
Thanks for sharing your story.
Phil
#14
My son says that once the back wheel locks up, should stay on it, as the friction of the tire catching up to the speed of the bikes movement is enough to compress the front tree and cause the bike to go over?
So to all the seasoned long term ridres out there. If you lock up a back tire, to stay on it, or get off it and try to find the threshold? For those with ABS brakes, how do you like them?
So to all the seasoned long term ridres out there. If you lock up a back tire, to stay on it, or get off it and try to find the threshold? For those with ABS brakes, how do you like them?
#15
I disagree strongly.
The whole purpose of ABS is to not let the tire(s) lock up.
If you have locked up the rear tire so badly that the bike is sideways, you are no longer just trying to stop the bike quickly. You are now trying to survive a very bad mistake.
The back end only comes around because the front end with more weight on it is applying more stopping force than the skidding rear tire. The locked rear tire, now with little directional or stopping friction tries to go around the harder braking front end.
The correct answer is to do everything to avoid this condition. Modulate the rear brakes (human ABS) release the rear brakes on the first hint of the rear end starting lock up or come around. The bike will always stop fastest in a straight line with the maximum amount of braking power before the tires start to skid being applied.
I just went through an emergency braking situation.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/gener...-accident.html
I was luckier or maybe a little faster than the OP.
I would be interested to read what any professionals have to say....
Any Motor Cops out there willing to chime in?
God knows I sure don't know it all...
The whole purpose of ABS is to not let the tire(s) lock up.
If you have locked up the rear tire so badly that the bike is sideways, you are no longer just trying to stop the bike quickly. You are now trying to survive a very bad mistake.
The back end only comes around because the front end with more weight on it is applying more stopping force than the skidding rear tire. The locked rear tire, now with little directional or stopping friction tries to go around the harder braking front end.
The correct answer is to do everything to avoid this condition. Modulate the rear brakes (human ABS) release the rear brakes on the first hint of the rear end starting lock up or come around. The bike will always stop fastest in a straight line with the maximum amount of braking power before the tires start to skid being applied.
I just went through an emergency braking situation.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/gener...-accident.html
I was luckier or maybe a little faster than the OP.
I would be interested to read what any professionals have to say....
Any Motor Cops out there willing to chime in?
God knows I sure don't know it all...
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[QUOTE=murd;7255674 ...Sometimes looking for an escape route rather than braking is another alternative.[/QUOTE]
Braking to avoid a collision is an automatic response we learned on 4 wheels.
A narrow & nimble motorcycle offers another alternative—swerve & go.
I hope you & your wife & your bike can get together again this season.
You’ve paid your dues, now go have fun.
Braking to avoid a collision is an automatic response we learned on 4 wheels.
A narrow & nimble motorcycle offers another alternative—swerve & go.
I hope you & your wife & your bike can get together again this season.
You’ve paid your dues, now go have fun.
#18
I disagree strongly.
The whole purpose of ABS is to not let the tire(s) lock up.
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The correct answer is to do everything to avoid this condition. Modulate the rear brakes (human ABS) release the rear brakes on the first hint of the rear end starting lock up or come around. The bike will always stop fastest in a straight line with the maximum amount of braking power before the tires start to skid being applied.
The whole purpose of ABS is to not let the tire(s) lock up.
***
The correct answer is to do everything to avoid this condition. Modulate the rear brakes (human ABS) release the rear brakes on the first hint of the rear end starting lock up or come around. The bike will always stop fastest in a straight line with the maximum amount of braking power before the tires start to skid being applied.
#19
I do agree that you do not want to lock up the rear, and you do get more stopping power at the point just before lockup (thats the ponit of ABS). Me personally though, if I lock it up, I'm sticking with it...
Phil