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3/4 life crisis 10-24-2010 04:39 PM

Anyone heard of VelocityWP oil additive?
 
Hello everyone,

Anybody heard of VelocityWP additive?

http://velocitywp.com/

Saw a demo at a local dealer over the weekend, rather impressive. He was using weights on a counter balanced lever against a small spinning wheel, using all brands of motor cycle oils inc. synthetic (same of those we love here). All brands of oils stopped the spinning wheel due to friction.

As soon as he pour a little bit of VelocityWP on to the spinning wheel, it never stops. What's impressive is he then sprayed brake cleaner onto the spinning wheel, that sucker keep on spinning, and on top of that, he added more weights (more than doubled) onto the lever, that wheel never miss a bit.

He claims it also lower oil temp drastically, of which I am skeptical. But I don't doubt the superior lubricatcity (if it's a word).

BTW, I'm not in any way related to the company or the owner. Just want to get someone else's opinion/experience if anyone out there tried it.

Sorry about the long post,

Ride safe

big cahuna 10-24-2010 05:01 PM

Did you smell the faint odor of bleach when they were doing the demo?.,,

Mal74 10-24-2010 05:45 PM

I looked at the site and they say they don't use 'chlorina'ted compounds.'

But, 26 bucks for a 4 oz bottle of motorcycle additive??? And some say synthetic oil costs too much!!

.

FlamedFXR 10-24-2010 06:26 PM

Snake oil.....no pun intended.

3/4 life crisis 10-24-2010 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by big cahuna (Post 7450452)
Did you smell the faint odor of bleach when they were doing the demo?.,,

No, I didn't, and I was maybe 3' away from the demo.....

3/4 life crisis 10-24-2010 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mal74 (Post 7450585)
I looked at the site and they say they don't use 'chlorina'ted compounds.'

But, 26 bucks for a 4 oz bottle of motorcycle additive??? And some say synthetic oil costs too much!!

.

Yeah, it's expensive, but if it helps, what the hell..... and if it's snake oil, I've probably spend more on useless items before.

Foodog 10-24-2010 07:31 PM

I'm 72 years old now and in all my years of driving and riding I have never, repeat never had, an engine failure or problem related to oil, likewise any of my friends. Also, over the years I've seen a lot of products come and go that were touted as being necessary or beneficial to the operation of a gasoline powered engine. I had a friend that used to rebuild engines and he said he could always tell if STP had been added to the oil due to the gummy residue throughout the engine. If there is a product that will improve the properties of oil you can bet one of the oil companies will be on it in a second. I personally wouldn't spend a penny on any of the stuff because it isn't needed as oil right out of the can does an adequate job of protecting your engine.

seph10 10-24-2010 07:41 PM

:icon_ditto::icon_ditto::icon_ditto::icon_ditto:WH AT HE SAID,,,

Mal74 10-24-2010 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by seph10 (Post 7451054)
:icon_ditto::icon_ditto::icon_ditto::icon_ditto:WH AT HE SAID,,,


:icon_ditto: Yep.

oct1949 10-24-2010 10:53 PM

Its like a snake oil..... I worked for a MAJOR auto maker... and we had those guys come in all the time......

Those special additives will fool the average person that don't know chit about oil and bearings....

Try this... have them put some plain ole bleach on the same bearings or wheel and I'll guarantee U won't be able to stop it

swestbrook60 10-25-2010 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by Foodog (Post 7451014)
I'm 72 years old now and in all my years of driving and riding I have never, repeat never had, an engine failure or problem related to oil, likewise any of my friends. Also, over the years I've seen a lot of products come and go that were touted as being necessary or beneficial to the operation of a gasoline powered engine. I had a friend that used to rebuild engines and he said he could always tell if STP had been added to the oil due to the gummy residue throughout the engine. If there is a product that will improve the properties of oil you can bet one of the oil companies will be on it in a second. I personally wouldn't spend a penny on any of the stuff because it isn't needed as oil right out of the can does an adequate job of protecting your engine.

Foo, correct! I designed rotating equipment (turbines, compressors, reciprocating engines, ect) for 20 years and oil is oil is oil. Forget all the miracle additives, they may help in one aspect but harm things in other areas.

Other Sheep 10-25-2010 12:20 AM

The major problem I have with the miracle additives is that they change the oils formula. If the formula isn't correct then you're using the wrong oil to begin with. If the formula is correct then don't change it.

dope_man_21 10-25-2010 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Foodog (Post 7451014)
I'm 72 years old now and in all my years of driving and riding I have never, repeat never had, an engine failure or problem related to oil, likewise any of my friends. Also, over the years I've seen a lot of products come and go that were touted as being necessary or beneficial to the operation of a gasoline powered engine. I had a friend that used to rebuild engines and he said he could always tell if STP had been added to the oil due to the gummy residue throughout the engine. If there is a product that will improve the properties of oil you can bet one of the oil companies will be on it in a second. I personally wouldn't spend a penny on any of the stuff because it isn't needed as oil right out of the can does an adequate job of protecting your engine.

:icon_goodpost:


Originally Posted by oct1949 (Post 7451753)
Its like a snake oil..... I worked for a MAJOR auto maker... and we had those guys come in all the time......

.Those special additives will fool the average person that don't know chit about oil and bearings...

Try this... have them put some plain ole bleach on the same bearings or wheel and I'll guarantee U won't be able to stop it

:icon_goodpost:

If there is a product out there that is that slippery, why would you want to add it to your engine and risk bearing slide or flat siding any roller bearing.

VELOCITY WP 08-03-2011 09:04 AM

Oil Additives
 
Hello everyone, I just joined the fourm. Im the owner of this (to you)

controversial subject of this additive Velocity WP. This is a Ware

protector. It was brought up in one of the previous post about "Does it

smell like bleach" The base of the product is "SOYBEAN" TBN total base

number is 18. The machine is a Tempkin bearing tester. Bleach will not

work on the machine. Four ounces in the crankcase will drop engine oil

tempeture 70 plus degrees. Check us out in STURGIS at 3rd and lazalle

starting on Saturday Aug 6th.

ftanner 08-03-2011 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by 3/4 life crisis (Post 7450376)
Hello everyone,

Anybody heard of VelocityWP additive?

http://velocitywp.com/

Saw a demo at a local dealer over the weekend, rather impressive. He was using weights on a counter balanced lever against a small spinning wheel, using all brands of motor cycle oils inc. synthetic (same of those we love here). All brands of oils stopped the spinning wheel due to friction.

As soon as he pour a little bit of VelocityWP on to the spinning wheel, it never stops. What's impressive is he then sprayed brake cleaner onto the spinning wheel, that sucker keep on spinning, and on top of that, he added more weights (more than doubled) onto the lever, that wheel never miss a bit.

He claims it also lower oil temp drastically, of which I am skeptical. But I don't doubt the superior lubricatcity (if it's a word).

BTW, I'm not in any way related to the company or the owner. Just want to get someone else's opinion/experience if anyone out there tried it.

Sorry about the long post,

Ride safe


Repeat after me.... Snake oil. There is no such thing as a 100% frictionless liquid.

ftanner 08-03-2011 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by VELOCITY WP (Post 8650216)
Hello everyone, I just joined the fourm. Im the owner of this (to you)

controversial subject of this additive Velocity WP. This is a Ware

protector. It was brought up in one of the previous post about "Does it

smell like bleach" The base of the product is "SOYBEAN" TBN total base

number is 18. The machine is a Tempkin bearing tester. Bleach will not

work on the machine. Four ounces in the crankcase will drop engine oil

tempeture 70 plus degrees. Check us out in STURGIS at 3rd and lazalle

starting on Saturday Aug 6th.


Umm... Let me see here.... You can't spell the words wear, I'm, Timkin, or temperature correctly, and your grammar is atrocious, and you expect us to trust a product that you have created?

I'm also calling bullshit on your claim that it will drop engine oil temps by 70 degrees since most of the heat in engine oil comes as a byproduct of the combustion process and not a byproduct of friction.

In addition, that well known snake oil "Slick 50" has booths everywhere and makes their products sound like the second coming of Jesus. Do you really think that having a booth makes your product legitimate?

SteveO-ll 08-03-2011 04:50 PM

Residual residue from the cracker/coker machines (whatever they are called in the industry) at the refinery. No thanks not interested at this time, until it is tested by an unbiased outside testing facility, and proven beyond the shadow of a doubt.

Bones77 08-03-2011 05:19 PM

To the OP.

This demo you witnessed; were the gears turning at a speed that would replicate 2500 to 3000 rpm on a harley engine and at a tempature between 200 to 250 degrees?

If not the test was meaningless.

Mr. V WP,

Are you making a trade claim that your product will drop engine oil temp 70 degrees? Not sure I want my engine oil running around 150 degrees. But still, I hope you have a good lawyer.


Bones

skratch 08-03-2011 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by dope_man_21 (Post 7452474)
If there is a product out there that is that slippery, why would you want to add it to your engine and risk bearing slide or flat siding any roller bearing.

umm, you're kidding, right?

Other Sheep 08-03-2011 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by ftanner (Post 8651282)
Umm... Let me see here.... You can't spell the words wear, I'm, Timkin, or temperature correctly, and your grammar is atrocious, and you expect us to trust a product that you have created?

I'm also calling bullshit on your claim that it will drop engine oil temps by 70 degrees since most of the heat in engine oil comes as a byproduct of the combustion process and not a byproduct of friction.

In addition, that well known snake oil "Slick 50" has booths everywhere and makes their products sound like the second coming of Jesus. Do you really think that having a booth makes your product legitimate?

You missed the word "forum". And he didn't capitalize the street name "lazalle". One more strike and he's out.

1SG_CFP 08-20-2011 04:16 PM

I bought a bottle and my engine IS running cooler. I spoke with a number of other people who swear by it.

If it's good for my engine, it's worth the money. If it does nothing, I can afford $5 extra cost per oil change. But for me, I'm happy so far.

And you can't draw any conclusions just because oil companies haven't jumped on it. Orbital engine sold licenses to manufacturers who never use the technology in deference to oil companies. Bombardiar was the only one to use it. And they still do.

ftanner 08-20-2011 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Other Sheep (Post 8652950)
You missed the word "forum". And he didn't capitalize the street name "lazalle". One more strike and he's out.

I'm fairly certain that you were being sarcastic, but I'm not when I say, you're right. I missed those.

ftanner 08-20-2011 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by 1SG_CFP (Post 8718604)
I bought a bottle and my engine IS running cooler. I spoke with a number of other people who swear by it.

If it's good for my engine, it's worth the money. If it does nothing, I can afford $5 extra cost per oil change. But for me, I'm happy so far.

And you can't draw any conclusions just because oil companies haven't jumped on it. Orbital engine sold licenses to manufacturers who never use the technology in deference to oil companies. Bombardiar was the only one to use it. And they still do.

People that use Slick 50 and other "snake oils" swear by them too. No thanks.

You're Ok with paying an additional $5 for something that does nothing during an oil change beyond what conventional (both dino and synth) oils do? Wow! You're exactly who these companies look for as prey.

1SG_CFP 08-20-2011 05:15 PM

Except, my engine IS running cooler.

ftanner 08-20-2011 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by 1SG_CFP (Post 8718822)
Except, my engine IS running cooler.

Prove it. Perception means nothing. I want to see measurable proof.

There's a reason why the phrase "butt dyno" was coined. It was due to a perceived horsepower or torque increase when, in fact, there wasn't a measurable difference.

We shall coin your comment as "butt thermo" until we can see some measured before and after proof for your bike.

1SG_CFP 08-20-2011 10:16 PM

I guess since I'm not on trial, and I have no incentive to invest time to prove or disprove anything to anyone, I'll leave it up to you to prove or disprove YOUR theory.
I simply stated my experience. And I have nothing to gain or lose in relating it.

ftanner 08-20-2011 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by 1SG_CFP (Post 8719938)
I guess since I'm not on trial, and I have no incentive to invest time to prove or disprove anything to anyone, I'll leave it up to you to prove or disprove YOUR theory.
I simply stated my experience. And I have nothing to gain or lose in relating it.

So, yours is just another unsubstantiated claim that this "snake oil" works. Sorta like those claims back in the 1800s that everything from Laudanum to Cocaine cured all sorts of maladies.


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