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Quick question, except for the evaporative canister and the $200 extra cost, are there any differences between a California emissions bike and a non- California bike? Specifically, are there any EFI mapping or cam differences? Referring to brand new 2014 model.
 
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No. The CA exhaust emission standards are the same as the EPA 2010 Tier II standard. From the CARB website:

The California exhaust emission test procedures are adopted from the U. S. Environmental Protection Agency's (U.S. EPA's) exhaust test procedures in title 40, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 86, subparts E and F.
 

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from what i can tell the 14's are 50 state bikes and all ship identically. and you should not get the $200 surcharge for the evap cannister.
 
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from what i can tell the 14's are 50 state bikes and all ship identically. and you should not get the $200 surcharge for the evap cannister.
There are no 50 state Harleys. The California compliant bikes still have a different VIN designation and there are no Evap controls on the non California bikes.
 
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Originally Posted by slozomby
from what i can tell the 14's are 50 state bikes and all ship identically. and you should not get the $200 surcharge for the evap cannister.
Odd......A Las Vegas Nevada dealer told me 2 weeks ago that bikes sold in NV do not have the canister.

Unless that canister is placed inside the pipes or muffler, I could not see a odd looking part dangling from the frame or elsewhere.

If CA owners can post up a photo of this canister, it might help others to ID it when they see it.
 

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Odd......A Las Vegas Nevada dealer told me 2 weeks ago that bikes sold in NV do not have the canister.

Unless that canister is placed inside the pipes or muffler, I could not see a odd looking part dangling from the frame or elsewhere.

If CA owners can post up a photo of this canister, it might help others to ID it when they see it.
Here is one on a 2011 Dyna. They don't go in the pipes. They are there to capture and store hydrocarbons until the bike is started and then they are routed to the engine to be burned.

The canister is on the front of the frame by the brake pedal. I was in Reno this past weekend and looked at a 2014 there. It had a Federal VIN, a Federal emissions sticker and no canister.

 

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then im really confused why the harley website dropped the CA emmissions surcharge from the bike builder an price guideline on all 2014 models.
 
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