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tjccc1999 07-27-2008 11:19 PM

Bike will just shut off
 
I have a 2007 FLHTCU ultra classic that is still under warranty and have had it at the shop several times trying to fix this problem. You will be riding down the road and the bike just shuts off. You do not loose your battery as the radio and lights stay on. The bike will start right back up. The HD mechanics tell me they can find nothing wrong. This is driving me crazy and is very dangerous. Need help!!!!!

78fxs78 08-06-2008 10:21 PM

It has to be in either fuel sys or Ign then, Tell them you don't want it back till its fixed and you want a loaner, let them ride until it acts up for them, if you got it new from them they should help you out
WI has a lemon law, 3 times in for the same problem, if its still not fixed they have to give you a new one

JackShafted 08-08-2008 10:54 AM

Nice about your lemon law on WI. Any chance it'll catch on?
Have you had a look at the bank sensors? I have an 03 FXST and it has a bank sensor that will shut off the bike if it is below 45 deg for over a second. Does your bike shut off when going straight down the road or banking? It could just be a loose connection on this sensor. Then again I'm new and just reading everything I can in the manual.
Good Luck

trip20 08-11-2008 08:49 PM

I have a buddy with a '07 Street Glide who is having similar issues. However, his gauges are also involved at times. And at one point when it began happening, it also involved his radio, and I believe his headlights. His issue also appears to be associated with moisture.

Soon after riding in the rain or washing the bike, his bike has major electrical issues. Since it's purchase last spring, his Street Glide has been in to the shop for electrical warranty work somewhere in the neighborhood of 14 times.

He's had the usual things checked (i.e., speed/idle sensors, battery cables, connectors...etc). He's also had his ECM replaced.

I live in Wisconsin. My pal submitted papers utilizing Wisconsin's Lemon Law. He sent them to the MoCo this past Monday/Tuesday. The criteria for being a lemon in Wisconsin are not as described above by the other poster. There are other qualifications that must be met in order to qualify for WI's Lemon Law. Click here to read the criteria.

I'll post back here if they fix his bike, but at this point he's pretty much expecting a new bike.

fr21555 08-26-2008 11:08 AM

I just went through something just like that on my Evo. Turned out to be the ignition timing sensor plate. Bike would run, then cut out, and yes it was dangerous. I was lucky to have family riding along to keep cagers off my tail.

bobcowan 08-29-2008 12:38 PM

With fuel problems, the engine generally sputters to a halt. With an electrical/ignition problem, it just dies without warning. Generally speaking. Have them swap in a new ECU and see what happens.

fogcity123 08-29-2008 11:56 PM

I had a buell that did that. Would turn off, then turn back on 30min to two hours later. It was the bank sensor (which was only discovered once the mech rode it home).

BlockHead96 08-30-2008 12:09 AM

Interesting! Here is what I posted early in the week.


I was climbing up in altitude toward the summit of the local Volcano, cruising between 20-25 mph in second gear about 2500 RPM, speed limit in park in that area is 25 MPH. Outside temp, maybe 72*, so the weather was nice. I come around a turn to go into the next turn, she acts like she ran out of gas, sputtered, farted and died! I had at least 1/4 tank of fuel and I did not hit the Run/Off switch. No CEL, no nothing. Odd thing is, when I press the Run switch in the run position, the fuel pump would run. Only did that a few times then stopped. Let it set a couple minutes, she fired right off. Odddddd!

Any ideas as to what's up?? I don't know how to check for codes. Only 1700 Mi. on the bike..

Silly assed dealer says they don't what it is unless they can duplicate the problem. If it keeps up, I will dump HD and not look back. This would be my first and last HD if this is the case.

BlockHead96 08-30-2008 02:52 PM

Had the ECM flashed again at the dealer this morning. Those clowns tell ya they don't know what it is or does. Then, when I get it back I ride home, the first thing I noticed is, the surge is back. I tell myself, I bet it's a stock re flash of the ECM. I look at the paper work the dealer gave me and it says,( Install upgraded stock calibration) Event number 32899-07F/DT. Anyone know what the OEM stock calibration # is??

robzuc97 09-02-2008 12:55 AM

Frustrated with HD but can't do a WOW test on your own bike? Hold the trip reset button in while turning the ignition key on (stop sw set to run); this is the WOW test and will show any trouble codes present. The display will read P=ECM S=TSSM Sp=Speedometer St=Tachometer (if equipped)
*Part number of component follows each item after pressing reset button. Use the rest button to scan through and hold button in to select (if memory serves). Not the dealers fault; intermittant problems are difficult to trace esp. if you're not getting a trouble code (which sounds unlikely but ???). The ECM was updated (reflash) by the dealer at NO COST to you if I'm reading your description right. Also try wiggling the wire on you CKP and connector with bike running (shuts of bike & throws TC when it loses signal); this is called a "wiggle test" and can be performed on any electrical component to check for intermittants. Changing the ECM won't help unless it IS the problem but unlikely: once again a trouble code would be thrown. If you don't have TC's, check TSSM mounting to see if it's moving around and thinking the bike is tipped over.

JW1200 10-04-2008 07:08 PM

Same thing with me today
 
My 91 1200 sporty died 6 times in 20 miles today. It seemed to happen as
I was in 3rd gear. You I would leave a sopt sign and bring the RPM;s up and shift then again, then as I would level off in 3rd or 4th. anout 40 mph. the bike would just quit. I pull over, turn the key off, put it in N and it would fire right up. Go down the road a bit and it would do it again. BTW I have a full tank of hi test, and tried the fule valve on...ON and RES.
Anyhelp??? Thanks.

kbflash44 10-06-2008 11:29 PM

Check the main hot wire (located under the seat the one coming from the breaker) to see if it's getting hot. Had this problem with a buddy's bike. He took it to two diff. dealers they couldn't find the problem. I found a spot about 3" long that was getting hot. I cut the bad place out and replace with a little bigger wire. He has not had any more problems with it since. Good luck and let us know how it comes out.

JW1200 10-07-2008 10:48 AM

Seems like the "breaker" had poped out of it's holder, maybe it was shorting causeing the bike to quit. Thanks. Will "test" it soon.

JW1200 10-10-2008 11:23 AM

nop...that wasn't it. I still need help.

Thanks

d_slat 10-11-2008 11:06 PM

jw1200, Is it dying instantly or sputtering to a stop? if it sputters a little, like it's running out of gas, check to see that you have good fuel flow going into the carb, not that you have a fuel filter in the line that is restricted or a fuel tank that isn't vented properly

JW1200 10-12-2008 09:37 AM

It dies instantly, and the tach goes nuts. I'm told it is the
timing sensor. I will put one on next week. I hope that is the
only problem. Got layed off and $ tight.
Thanks d slat

ssmith236 11-06-2008 07:35 PM

2003 nightrain
 
my bike started and ran for 2 min. and shutoff..won't turn over.. when I hit run button nothing, can't hear fuel punp,fuse is good to fuel pump,any ideas?

JW1200 11-07-2008 07:41 AM

I replaced the ignition timing sensor plate, did it myself, took 2 hrs. everything seems to be fine now. Thanks for all the help guys.

mugs 06-19-2012 01:41 PM

2000 ultra suhts down while driving
 
I have a 2000 ultra classic. Only 10K mi on it. I was low on fuel, as the light just came on. I passed a moped, and upon getting back into my lane she shut down completely. No power to anything. I was going about 40mph. I turned into a car lot. Stopped the bike. Turned the ign to off, then back on, she light up and away I went. What could this be from? Not the first time it happened. Maybe bad gas from last year? Plus getting low on fuel? Bank angle sensor? I just filled it up with fresh gas, I will see if that was it. Will post soon.

mugs 06-19-2012 01:42 PM

2000 ultra shuts down while driving
 
I have a 2000 ultra classic. Only 10K mi on it. I was low on fuel, as the light just came on. I passed a moped, and upon getting back into my lane she shut down completely. No power to anything. I was going about 40mph. I turned into a car lot. Stopped the bike. Turned the ign to off, then back on, she light up and away I went. What could this be from? Not the first time it happened. Maybe bad gas from last year? Plus getting low on fuel? Bank angle sensor? I just filled it up with fresh gas, I will see if that was it. Will post soon.

BlockHead96 06-20-2012 09:49 AM

Mine used to do that too, no fun at 70+ and bam, engine shuts off! Make a long story short, my issue was with the HD Running light/turn signal /brake light module that make them all light up, this interfered with the TSSM, (security system) sending a signal the bike is off and and security system activated. I too would obviously pull over, wait a few minutes and bike would start up.

Kevin3932 07-22-2012 07:03 AM

I have an 06 Ultra that I drove this weekend and the power goes out with the dials shutting down and going back. The red security Key goes on for a bit then off. Its been an issue this whole summer and I am less than 2 weeks from sturgis. I have had the Voltage regulator replaced and the Power Commander. My next step it to replace the Ignition switch. If anyone has any ideas, PLEASE help!

BlockHead96 07-22-2012 10:26 AM

I would also check the wiring under the gas tank, I have found some to rub on the frame fail and chaff a little, wearing through the harness loom. I have also found pinched wires, from the factory, in the throttle housing when I replaced my grips. I am curious if you have the run/turn/brake light module?

Glockmeister 08-15-2012 08:42 PM

Debris in my petcock / fuel filter caused a similar situation for me in 1996. The state of California required gas companies to change formulas or add some additive to the fuel that degraded the o-rings on my new XL1200C's fuel system and within 6 months I was losing power or having engine shut downs intermittently. After a few minutes the bike would usually restart (once the obstruction settled back down into the petcock body). I learned to shake the bike back and forth for a second and it would restart. My dealership (Chula Vista HD now closed) replaced the petcock and fuel filter with better parts and better o-rings and I never had the issue again on that bike.

HALORANGER 08-21-2012 05:26 PM

Bike sputters but does not kill on Interstates
 
I have a friend who just bought a used 1998 HD classic. It runs fine in the city but when you get it on the interstates after a time the bike starts sputtering but does not kill. We pull over and within a very short time we're up and running again. Does anyone have any idea as to what the problem might be. The dealer doesn't and they can't take it on the highway for 30 minutes to find out. We all stopped at the same time to gas up but the problem was only with his bike.

1. Cracked fuel line in gas tank
2. Vapor lock
3. Gas cap

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Jondalar 09-03-2012 07:33 AM

I moved this. Couldn't figure out how to delete it.

BlockHead96 09-03-2012 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 10284822)
I moved this. Couldn't figure out how to delete it.

Have you checked your battery connections?


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