Why Did The Harley Riders Drive Off a Cliff?
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I'll try, the first guy pulling over to let the faster bikes pass, didn't realize the pavement ended at the fog line (white line) the second guy in wrong gear possibly looked over his right shoulder to see what his buddy just did and also ran out of road. Just my guess. My BIL just about did the same crap on Iron mountain Rd. south of Keystone, S.D. Climbing a switchback, two up and trying to lug it going up hill, just barely made it.
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Personally, I don't understand the apparent anger towards people who fell down. They don't cost me extra insurance charges. I buy either the minimum or maximum that I can afford as I see fit. Higher deductibles = less coverage for property losses. Lower deductibles = more coverage. What I'm willing to pay for better coverage is what makes my bill go up. Two riders putting their bikes in a ditch = nothing to me. They're either paying the right amount to their own insurance companies to cover their losses, or they're not, and if they're not, it costs the insurance company no more to pay on property damages than it would cost if an uninsured motorist blew a red light and hit 'em and the riders hadn't paid for the uninsured motorist coverage. In other words, not one thin dime more because they didn't pay for the added coverage of the true "idiots" (uninsured motorists) that cause injury and property loss to bikers in much greater numbers than bikers cause to themselves.
Clearly these two riders were 100% at fault for their own loss. They didn't hurt anyone but themselves, and it didn't appear that any "hurt" was suffered in a physical sense anyway, just (possibly) to their property.
It never ceases to amaze me how much some people want to control other people over victimless transgressions when those "transgressions" are really nothing more than acting differently than the people who want to deny them a motorcycle license, or institute more government-mandated safety training well beyond what all the cagers get in high school driver's ed. I ride because I love freedom. I never argue to reduce someone else's freedom to enjoy the same thing(s) that I exercise the freedom to enjoy. I don't feel particularly bad for these guys. I just don't take their carelessness as a personal affront to me, or feel the need to make up myths about how a simple accident like that is why my insurance rates are "high" (or whatever). I really don't get the general tenor of this thread.
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Clearly these two riders were 100% at fault for their own loss. They didn't hurt anyone but themselves, and it didn't appear that any "hurt" was suffered in a physical sense anyway, just (possibly) to their property.
It never ceases to amaze me how much some people want to control other people over victimless transgressions when those "transgressions" are really nothing more than acting differently than the people who want to deny them a motorcycle license, or institute more government-mandated safety training well beyond what all the cagers get in high school driver's ed. I ride because I love freedom. I never argue to reduce someone else's freedom to enjoy the same thing(s) that I exercise the freedom to enjoy. I don't feel particularly bad for these guys. I just don't take their carelessness as a personal affront to me, or feel the need to make up myths about how a simple accident like that is why my insurance rates are "high" (or whatever). I really don't get the general tenor of this thread.
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I remember seeing this video before. If memory serves this was on the dragon or in that area. I cannot tell even in slow what the first guy was doing. We don't have a good view of him until is front tire is already too far gone. I believe the second guy looked, but if you watch closely, it really looks to me like he intentionally pulled off. I think he was trying to get pulled over to the side to stop and help his buddy but misjudged the drop.
The first rider look visibly shaken. Hopefully no one was seriously injured. We all make mistakes. I was taught very young there are only 2 types of riders. Those that have been down and those that will. I still think everyone should have to take some time off road on a dirt bike. That is where you really learn how to crash.
The first rider look visibly shaken. Hopefully no one was seriously injured. We all make mistakes. I was taught very young there are only 2 types of riders. Those that have been down and those that will. I still think everyone should have to take some time off road on a dirt bike. That is where you really learn how to crash.
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If you slow down the video, you can just see as the Harleys come into view, both bikes (best I can tell) are nearly side by side and it seems the bike near the center line jerked over causing the one near the edge of the road to get too close to the edge of the road and hit the sharp drop off and go over (he must have thought that was a hole), the second guy tried to pull over and went too far. These guys should not have been side by side, lesson learned the hard way I guess. Definitely one reason why you never ride to the right of the lane or side by side.
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