High alt and pinging
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07-22-2017, 04:50 AM
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As I stated, I had to run 87 just to make it bearable. Thats winding it out considerably higher, and staying 1-2 gears lower than normal. With 91, it was a ping monster. I originally thought Id need higher octane, so I got a can of octane boost. Huge mistake. 1 mile down the road and I was thinking I need to dump the tank and get some 87 back in. Managed to run a gal out and stopped to top off with 85. Ran better again. A quick search on the net stated that a lower octane can be ran at higher elevations.
I thought pinging was from running to low of octane or incorrect timing? Can you run to high octane?
We stopped in at a dealer there to ask what they do with the new bikes. Was told nothing, just run 91. And then do a tuner as next step. Its almost like my bike would not adjust to the different elevation. Seems I recall reading something to that effect posted here last fall when the M8's came out???
Last fall it ran great in the Smokies, but thats 1/2 the elevation as the Rockies.
I thought pinging was from running to low of octane or incorrect timing? Can you run to high octane?
We stopped in at a dealer there to ask what they do with the new bikes. Was told nothing, just run 91. And then do a tuner as next step. Its almost like my bike would not adjust to the different elevation. Seems I recall reading something to that effect posted here last fall when the M8's came out???
Last fall it ran great in the Smokies, but thats 1/2 the elevation as the Rockies.
If it were my ride, I'd be having a diagnostic run on the EFI by the dealer, to eliminate that as a problem if nothing else.
#12
07-22-2017, 06:05 AM
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Could have been fuel but sounds like you have a bad absolute pressure/temperature reader on your throttle body. Maybe 32319-07A
Since reducing octane seemed to help, it must have been too rich. Lower octane burns quicker. They have the same BTU power content. 40 mph in low gear is a lot of rpm.
Since reducing octane seemed to help, it must have been too rich. Lower octane burns quicker. They have the same BTU power content. 40 mph in low gear is a lot of rpm.
#13
07-22-2017, 09:12 AM
Thanks for the info. Sounds like I need to take it in and let them take a look at it. With it running normal now that back home, I just keep putting it off. But I will say that with all the hype of the power of the new 114's over the standard 103's and I'm not seeing that same result, possibly I have had an issue from day 1??? My buddies have stock '12 and '13' SG's with the 103's and I have to really get into it it when they take off to keep up. I cant pull away even the slightest. Another buddy just bought a '17 RGS and had the stage 1 done 2 weeks after purchase.. cam, full exhaust, TTS tuner, dyno, breather......he can pull away from me. I just don't tell him he can. LOL
Yes I know I was pushing it taking off. But had to do what it took. That was mostly when doing the Mtn curves when inclines were involved. Flat land I could feather the throttle and shift earleir. Of course the tranny/primary fluid transfer talk now with the M8's when running over 3500rpm was always in back of my mind. Luckliy I didn't have that problem. Though I didn't check levels till back home. Wasn't going to deal with that too and just let the chips fall.
Yes I know I was pushing it taking off. But had to do what it took. That was mostly when doing the Mtn curves when inclines were involved. Flat land I could feather the throttle and shift earleir. Of course the tranny/primary fluid transfer talk now with the M8's when running over 3500rpm was always in back of my mind. Luckliy I didn't have that problem. Though I didn't check levels till back home. Wasn't going to deal with that too and just let the chips fall.
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