Tune issues @ 1/4 throttle power vision/stock ECM
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Tune issues @ 1/4 throttle power vision/stock ECM
so i did a 107 build in my fxdbi. Had a PCV in the bike(when it was an 88). Tuner figured that wasnt sufficient for the build. So i got talked into doing a dyno tune with his own personal powervision(just pay for another license)on my stock ECM. Well i broke the bike in. He tuned it and the dyno graph had a dip in it from 2500-3500, which i was told was likely from my exhaust(scratch head). Ok, take their word for it. Get the bike home, ride it, the damn thing jerks and sputters from 2500-3500. So take it back, he runs the bike around town with his PV hooked up and it makes some changes, which fixes my problem. NICE!
Well now, got it home again and out cruising, now theres a “dead spot”(best way i can describe it) at about 1/4 throttle from about 3500-redline(likely). Just sputters and spits as long as you hold it there/wont pick up speed. This problem was absolutely not present before we fixed the first issue.
Can anyone give me a couple options on what I should do? I mean i can buy a PV and auto tune myself. But I am not a tuner by any means. Or should I go another route? Like I said I can auto tune but i wouldnt know how to adjust any settings according to thottle position(which is what I am assuming needs to be tweaked). Because if I crack it past that point, itll go. And no problems with throttle position before that spot either.
Bike is an 06 dyna, 6 speed. 107, 3B heads, hpi 58mm intake/TB and 5.3 inj. Supertrapp supermeg exhaust fully open, tman 625 cams
Well now, got it home again and out cruising, now theres a “dead spot”(best way i can describe it) at about 1/4 throttle from about 3500-redline(likely). Just sputters and spits as long as you hold it there/wont pick up speed. This problem was absolutely not present before we fixed the first issue.
Can anyone give me a couple options on what I should do? I mean i can buy a PV and auto tune myself. But I am not a tuner by any means. Or should I go another route? Like I said I can auto tune but i wouldnt know how to adjust any settings according to thottle position(which is what I am assuming needs to be tweaked). Because if I crack it past that point, itll go. And no problems with throttle position before that spot either.
Bike is an 06 dyna, 6 speed. 107, 3B heads, hpi 58mm intake/TB and 5.3 inj. Supertrapp supermeg exhaust fully open, tman 625 cams
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when you say that you have a "fully open" super meg pipe, are you saying that there is no baffle core and no plates are in place? what is your compression set up at? it almost looks like you are asking for driveability issues with a pipe like that and a very large t/b. you also have not mentioned what gear or speed you are at when you experience your problem. I would first say to take it back to your tuner and advise him of the situation, and ask him if there is anything he can do to remedy it. No 2 people ride in exactly the same way, throttle application, shift points etc, so maybe he did not feel it.
If you are running the pipe open with no core or plates, i would advise you to put them back in the pipe and have it tuned. there is no reason that that pipe will not work for you with the baffle and plates in place.
m
If you are running the pipe open with no core or plates, i would advise you to put them back in the pipe and have it tuned. there is no reason that that pipe will not work for you with the baffle and plates in place.
m
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The baffles are in, no plates. The issue will happen in any gear, at 1/4 throttle from about 3509-4500 rpm. Compression at 10.5:1
this issue was not present before I had my tuner fix the initial problem of sputtering/jerking(likely too rich)at 2500-3500. So im thinking the auto tune that he ran fixed one issue but created another.
Pretty sure running the pipe with discs will hurt performance. Thats what I took from what my builder said anyway.
this issue was not present before I had my tuner fix the initial problem of sputtering/jerking(likely too rich)at 2500-3500. So im thinking the auto tune that he ran fixed one issue but created another.
Pretty sure running the pipe with discs will hurt performance. Thats what I took from what my builder said anyway.
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The baffles are in, no plates. The issue will happen in any gear, at 1/4 throttle from about 3509-4500 rpm. Compression at 10.5:1
this issue was not present before I had my tuner fix the initial problem of sputtering/jerking(likely too rich)at 2500-3500. So im thinking the auto tune that he ran fixed one issue but created another.
Pretty sure running the pipe with discs will hurt performance. Thats what I took from what my builder said anyway.
this issue was not present before I had my tuner fix the initial problem of sputtering/jerking(likely too rich)at 2500-3500. So im thinking the auto tune that he ran fixed one issue but created another.
Pretty sure running the pipe with discs will hurt performance. Thats what I took from what my builder said anyway.
9 out of ten times by “fixing” the exhaust resistance makes a much better running bike and not a loss in power. Sound too good to be true? Put 15-18 discs and a 1 1/2 hole in the end cap and come back ant let us know how she runs. Then take it to a dyno and see if you lost power.
Bob
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Just because one exhaust works well with one build doesn’t mean it will act the same with different engine mods.
FWIW, you may just need to get it to a competent tuner to get it straightened/tuned out.
Bob