Same tune but one cylinder leaner than the other
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Z— I commend what you are doing. I also appreciate what the guys are advising as I am a dyno tuner as well. You can be successful at what you are doing on the fueling side as long as you have proper targets for AFR. Timing may be a bit more difficult as you can’t validate the changes with the equipment you are using.
First, get the fueling corrected. After that, I honestly don’t know how you are going to get close to proper timing tables without being able to data log knock events or performance gains or losses.
Get the AFRs straightened out and please keep us updated on your progress and results.
First, get the fueling corrected. After that, I honestly don’t know how you are going to get close to proper timing tables without being able to data log knock events or performance gains or losses.
Get the AFRs straightened out and please keep us updated on your progress and results.
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I have a new in the box unmarried Harley Super Tuner for Magneti Marelli plus software. It adjusts Main spark, WOT spark, Idle spark, ISC vs. Head Temp, Main Fuel Table, Rear Cylinder Modifier Table, Cranking fuel table vs head temp, Startup Fuel Prime Pulse, Injector BPW vs. battery voltage, Cranking Spark Advance, ISC added during Crank.
It has numerous base maps for different combinations H-D had back then. So those are the things that can be adjusted with the H-D tuner.
In reality, I would suggest a PowerCommander for your situation. It will adjust fuel, spark much easier than the H-D tuner. If you want to go the Harley Tuner route, PM me and I will make you a great deal. But I warn you, the PC is much easier.
You can buy a PowerCommander and an autotune module. Here is the link. http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...mdl=313&yr=806
Hope this helps.
It has numerous base maps for different combinations H-D had back then. So those are the things that can be adjusted with the H-D tuner.
In reality, I would suggest a PowerCommander for your situation. It will adjust fuel, spark much easier than the H-D tuner. If you want to go the Harley Tuner route, PM me and I will make you a great deal. But I warn you, the PC is much easier.
You can buy a PowerCommander and an autotune module. Here is the link. http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...mdl=313&yr=806
Hope this helps.
#23
Agreed, it will take time and I'm fine with that. But All I'm adjusting on my own long-term (past break-in) is mixture, and I don't see it so much as a guessing game. I see it as selecting target mixtures for various states, and adjusting for deficiencies as necessary.
I've been riding long enough to know what a well-tuned bike runs like, and that's all I need.
Z— I commend what you are doing. I also appreciate what the guys are advising as I am a dyno tuner as well. You can be successful at what you are doing on the fueling side as long as you have proper targets for AFR. Timing may be a bit more difficult as you can’t validate the changes with the equipment you are using.
First, get the fueling corrected. After that, I honestly don’t know how you are going to get close to proper timing tables without being able to data log knock events or performance gains or losses.
Get the AFRs straightened out and please keep us updated on your progress and results.
First, get the fueling corrected. After that, I honestly don’t know how you are going to get close to proper timing tables without being able to data log knock events or performance gains or losses.
Get the AFRs straightened out and please keep us updated on your progress and results.
@Ed Ramberger
A Super Tuner would be more work to learn than I want to invest (as you pointed out), but I appreciate the offer. I have a PCIII USB now, and have thought about upgrading to a PC-V + AutoTune in the future, but am not overly excited about piggyback tuners. In any case, the budget for this project has already been exceded by a wide margin so that will have to wait.
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You said it - not me. So while I'm on a roll of shameless self gratitude... See we actually do care and try to help.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/ignit...y-fat-boy.html
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