Do engine mechanics impact AFR as measured by O2 sensors?
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The absolute best thing, IMO, is for the OP to ask a dyno tuner if it would be ok to watch him tune a bike.
This will answer virtually any and all questions you could possibly ask about what it takes to tune with the most important tuning tool...the dyno. Then adapt your observations to your DIY street tuning effort.
IMO I always try to observe what it takes to accomplish a task. Then I try to repeat what I saw.
Once you see what it takes to properly recalibrate EFI you can take that knowledge to your own setup and I’ll bet you would be successful in your tuning endeavor.
Bob
This will answer virtually any and all questions you could possibly ask about what it takes to tune with the most important tuning tool...the dyno. Then adapt your observations to your DIY street tuning effort.
IMO I always try to observe what it takes to accomplish a task. Then I try to repeat what I saw.
Once you see what it takes to properly recalibrate EFI you can take that knowledge to your own setup and I’ll bet you would be successful in your tuning endeavor.
Bob
#22
Looking at my a/f data logs and the constant, slight variance in mixture within a single cylinder at a relatively steady RPM & throttle position, I can see that it's impossible to tune to perfection, but I am hoping to get closer to a 4% mixture variance front to rear. At 4-ish% variance, with one cylinder at 13.5. The other could be as low as about 13.0 or as high as about 14.0. Being the utter tuning novice that I am, I don't know if that's realistic but I'd sure like to think it is.
Of course I realize that tuning to a target AFR is never going to result in that ratio being precisely, consistently met, but is more of a target average or mean.
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#24
I think he’s saying that each cylinder needs to be within 10% mechanically. There’s no reason not to be able to tune each cylinder to the same a/f ratio. Tune each cylinder separately. Treat them as 2 individual engines. Put the PCiii in advanced mode to accomplish that.
If you’re saying you can’t replicate the readings at the same throttle settings, then there’s another issue.
Don’t expect the front cylinder map to be identical to the rear cylinder map.
If you’re saying you can’t replicate the readings at the same throttle settings, then there’s another issue.
Don’t expect the front cylinder map to be identical to the rear cylinder map.
Last edited by jbarr1; 10-20-2018 at 01:53 PM.
#25
Thanks Steve. Yes, I'm aware. Logging front CHT will be for trend analysis rather than to aid in diagnosing the issue I've had with rear CHT.
Interesting thought tho: I think I have room on my data logging rig for two more inputs, one of which I'll use for the factory engine temp sensor. If my rear head is also drilled & tapped for a sensor, I could add another one there solely for the purpose of logging data with no connection to the ECM, giving me both front & rear CHTs. But... I didn't see a hole for it when I took a quick look.
Interesting thought tho: I think I have room on my data logging rig for two more inputs, one of which I'll use for the factory engine temp sensor. If my rear head is also drilled & tapped for a sensor, I could add another one there solely for the purpose of logging data with no connection to the ECM, giving me both front & rear CHTs. But... I didn't see a hole for it when I took a quick look.
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