Thundermax ECM Thread
#191
08-04-2017, 04:16 PM
Road Master
Tommyblazin, I have a couple year old version, maybe 3 year old on my 2008 Ultra Classic CVO Screaming Eagle.
Love it!
When you first install in and load the base map and everything is set up, well that first ride, you will get some backfiring for the first 10 miles maybe until it heats up to 200 deg F and starts learning and adjusting. From there on in, your good to go.
If the backfire continues, you can use your laptop and adjust one setting from 0 to 1 and this takes care of your problems.
You won't be disappointed. The tech support is great.
When i got mine, I watched the videos, I called support and he told me which map to use with my cam and duals and head work and intake and mufflers.
She runs nice and smooth.
I am a guy that likes to play around with setting and tweak so I'm kind of use to the lap top and the program, but you can learn just like I did, the instructions are very easy to follow.
Note the wide band sensors are the larger diameter sensors and if you might have to change out the bungs on your headers, read about that or ask tech support before you buy so you know what you might have to do.
Trev
Love it!
When you first install in and load the base map and everything is set up, well that first ride, you will get some backfiring for the first 10 miles maybe until it heats up to 200 deg F and starts learning and adjusting. From there on in, your good to go.
If the backfire continues, you can use your laptop and adjust one setting from 0 to 1 and this takes care of your problems.
You won't be disappointed. The tech support is great.
When i got mine, I watched the videos, I called support and he told me which map to use with my cam and duals and head work and intake and mufflers.
She runs nice and smooth.
I am a guy that likes to play around with setting and tweak so I'm kind of use to the lap top and the program, but you can learn just like I did, the instructions are very easy to follow.
Note the wide band sensors are the larger diameter sensors and if you might have to change out the bungs on your headers, read about that or ask tech support before you buy so you know what you might have to do.
Trev
#192
08-04-2017, 04:34 PM
Elite HDF Member
did they update or fix this I had my heart set on it, as I read it CONSTANTLY ADJUST the tune to the weather/elevation/etc...than I read of all these problems with backfiring problems, all sorts of bad things, than once again I saw the thundermax in a WAVE version? maybe the earlier, anyhow, how do you guys honestly like em, I HATE THE FP3 wanna throw it down the toilet, I don't think it does a damm thing? lol.....
When I first installed the fuel mileage sucked but it is much better now. I can see significant adjustments to the fuel tables so far.
The more I ride the better it gets! Bought mine from Cycle Solutions with a pre loaded map for much less than anyone else offered with great customer support. BTW I am not affiliated with them at all, stumbled across them when looking for a Thundermax.
Note: I did have a head pipe that had the o2 bungs for the wide band o2 sensors.
#193
09-01-2017, 04:51 AM
Advanced
I have an 04 ultra with stock 88,ANess big sucker and crusher mellows..
I currently have Cobra true duals, but I am pulling them off and putting on
S&S Power Duals. Since power duals are actually different then True duals or stock,
and power duals are not available for my engine build, which would be the best choice, Stock or True dual.
Thank you..
I currently have Cobra true duals, but I am pulling them off and putting on
S&S Power Duals. Since power duals are actually different then True duals or stock,
and power duals are not available for my engine build, which would be the best choice, Stock or True dual.
Thank you..
#194
09-01-2017, 08:38 AM
Seasoned HDF Member
I have an 04 ultra with stock 88,ANess big sucker and crusher mellows..
I currently have Cobra true duals, but I am pulling them off and putting on
S&S Power Duals. Since power duals are actually different then True duals or stock,
and power duals are not available for my engine build, which would be the best choice, Stock or True dual.
Thank you..
I currently have Cobra true duals, but I am pulling them off and putting on
S&S Power Duals. Since power duals are actually different then True duals or stock,
and power duals are not available for my engine build, which would be the best choice, Stock or True dual.
Thank you..
I did the same thing with Bassani mufflers. Went from VnH true dual head pipes to KW duals which are the same headpipes as the SnS PDs. Didn't do any thing other than a auto tune.. A stage 1 bike shouldn't have any issues.. Mine motor was 10.8 to 1. 95 ci, with ported heads and Crane H290 cam.. Took a couple rides for things to smooth out and a autotune..
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#195
09-05-2017, 08:04 PM
Road Master
I did the same thing with Bassani mufflers. Went from VnH true dual head pipes to KW duals which are the same headpipes as the SnS PDs. Didn't do any thing other than a auto tune.. A stage 1 bike shouldn't have any issues.. Mine motor was 10.8 to 1. 95 ci, with ported heads and Crane H290 cam.. Took a couple rides for things to smooth out and a autotune..
#196
09-06-2017, 12:16 AM
Seasoned HDF Member
#197
09-06-2017, 08:43 PM
Road Master
#198
09-09-2017, 11:34 AM
Stellar HDF Member
There are numerous advantages to getting a new build, with several heat cycles, to a dyno for break in where the operator monitors and controls rpms, heat, and loading.
There is no better way to treat your brand new build than to put it in the hands of an experienced tuner to be sure to give the motor what it wants/needs to run properly. No hesitations, hiccups, backfiring, abnormal heat buildup, because all that is done by proper break in procedures...just like real race engines.
No downside to dyno break-in. Been breaking in performance builds for the past 15years without a bad result...just smiles for miles.
All that said, we certainly have seen plenty of builds gone bad due to excessively lean and/or rich that prevented proper breakin and results vary from oil usage, smoking, especially on decel, to shortened engine life and poor performance.
HTH,
Bob
#199
09-09-2017, 12:04 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
As I've mentioned many times, there is no advantage to trying to break in a new build by guessing at the calibration to be used.
There are numerous advantages to getting a new build, with several heat cycles, to a dyno for break in where the operator monitors and controls rpms, heat, and loading.
There is no better way to treat your brand new build than to put it in the hands of an experienced tuner to be sure to give the motor what it wants/needs to run properly. No hesitations, hiccups, backfiring, abnormal heat buildup, because all that is done by proper break in procedures...just like real race engines.
No downside to dyno break-in. Been breaking in performance builds for the past 15years without a bad result...just smiles for miles.
All that said, we certainly have seen plenty of builds gone bad due to excessively lean and/or rich that prevented proper breakin and results vary from oil usage, smoking, especially on decel, to shortened engine life and poor performance.
HTH,
Bob
There are numerous advantages to getting a new build, with several heat cycles, to a dyno for break in where the operator monitors and controls rpms, heat, and loading.
There is no better way to treat your brand new build than to put it in the hands of an experienced tuner to be sure to give the motor what it wants/needs to run properly. No hesitations, hiccups, backfiring, abnormal heat buildup, because all that is done by proper break in procedures...just like real race engines.
No downside to dyno break-in. Been breaking in performance builds for the past 15years without a bad result...just smiles for miles.
All that said, we certainly have seen plenty of builds gone bad due to excessively lean and/or rich that prevented proper breakin and results vary from oil usage, smoking, especially on decel, to shortened engine life and poor performance.
HTH,
Bob
#200
09-09-2017, 11:19 PM
Road Master