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Old 03-05-2019, 02:23 PM
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I hope you're right but I struggle to understand how the guy/gal drawn in by the halo effect of LW will then change course 180 degrees and buy a typical gas engine bike. Not seeing how that works. If a buyer is seriously shopping for an e-bike, its unlikely any LW halo effect will result in that buyer purchasing a Street 500 or 750 or one of the other small gas engine bikes.
Oh, I'm thinking more of the upcoming bikes, like the PanAmerica, the electric mountain bike, etc. With ICE bikes as fallback.

Right now, the trajectory HD is on is not sustainable, and they know it. Maintaining/increasing market share of a dwindling Touring market with a buyer base that's aging out. They have to do something drastic, otherwise AMF years will seem like a pleasant memory...
 
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But all of those sport bikes with a 150 range could easily get another 150 miles after a 5 min fill up, any time, day or night. Get stuck after hours with the LW or out of range of one of the 200 HD dealers with a charging station and you'll be sitting on the side of the road. It'll be interesting to see if the HD dealers with charging stations will leave their stations operational 24 hrs.
Yes, but that's not the intended use of LW. You can charge it at home for a commuter or city trips, and a lot of offices now have chargers. The infrastructure is slowly growing, and while you won't be touring on the LW anytime soon, that possibility is coming.
 
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Look who else is going after Harley!!!! Buell Electric motorcycles and from the article pretty dang cheap prices. https://www.roadracingworld.com/news...cycle-company/


 
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From a press release issued by Harley-Davidson:

Accessible to new motorcyclists and a thrill for accomplished riders, the LiveWire motorcycle is the perfect combination of power, performance and technology. Features include:

Performance and range optimized for the urban street-rider: The high-voltage battery provides 140 miles (225 km) of city range or 88 miles (142 km) of combined stop-and-go and highway range as measured using the J2982 Riding Range Test Procedure MIC City and MIC Combined (70mph) tests*. A DC Fast Charge (DCFC) may be used to charge the LiveWire™ motorcycle through a SAE J1772 connector (CCS2 – IEC type 2 charging connector in European and some other international markets). All Harley-Davidson dealers who sell the LiveWire™ motorcycle will offer a public DCFC charging station. DCFC can provide a 0-80% of battery capacity in 40 minutes or 0-100% in 60 minutes.

Amazing acceleration: from 0 to 60 mph in 3.0 seconds and 60-80 in 1.9 seconds. The instant torque provided by the H-D Revelation™ electric powertrain can produce 100 percent of its rated torque once the throttle is twisted, and 100 percent of that torque is always available. Top speed is 110mph.




https://www.roadracingworld.com/news...ic-motorcycle/

Since its a HD press release real world mileage and power will vary
 

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Originally Posted by Steve Cole
From a press release issued by Harley-Davidson:

Accessible to new motorcyclists and a thrill for accomplished riders, the LiveWire motorcycle is the perfect combination of power, performance and technology. Features include:

Performance and range optimized for the urban street-rider: The high-voltage battery provides 140 miles (225 km) of city range or 88 miles (142 km) of combined stop-and-go and highway range as measured using the J2982 Riding Range Test Procedure MIC City and MIC Combined (70mph) tests*. A DC Fast Charge (DCFC) may be used to charge the LiveWire™ motorcycle through a SAE J1772 connector (CCS2 – IEC type 2 charging connector in European and some other international markets). All Harley-Davidson dealers who sell the LiveWire™ motorcycle will offer a public DCFC charging station. DCFC can provide a 0-80% of battery capacity in 40 minutes or 0-100% in 60 minutes.

Amazing acceleration: from 0 to 60 mph in 3.0 seconds and 60-80 in 1.9 seconds. The instant torque provided by the H-D Revelation™ electric powertrain can produce 100 percent of its rated torque once the throttle is twisted, and 100 percent of that torque is always available. Top speed is 110mph.




https://www.roadracingworld.com/news...ic-motorcycle/

Since its a HD press release real world mileage and power will vary
Ok, that 88 mile figure is a bit scary - means straight highway is probably closer to 50-60 miles... That's back to being ridiculous.
 
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About all I need to know about electric vehicles.

 
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Ok, that 88 mile figure is a bit scary - means straight highway is probably closer to 50-60 miles... That's back to being ridiculous.
But...it's not a highway bike, even though they publish a highway range figure.
 
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But...it's not a highway bike, even though they publish a highway range figure.
It's not, but but the mere fact that you can't just jump on a highway with say 1/2 battery charge left makes it a no-go for me. That's probably the biggest issue with electrics nowadays, the much reduced range of highway vs street. Funny how opposite that is of an ICE vehicle.
 
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Originally Posted by polbit
It's not, but but the mere fact that you can't just jump on a highway with say 1/2 battery charge left makes it a no-go for me. That's probably the biggest issue with electrics nowadays, the much reduced range of highway vs street. Funny how opposite that is of an ICE vehicle.
You've obviously never owned a Sportster with a 2.2 gallon tank.
 
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You've obviously never owned a Sportster with a 2.2 gallon tank.
LOL Ouch, no...
 


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