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Old 02-14-2019, 08:45 PM
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Just don’t see how the Livewire ends well for the MoCo. Just the most basic internet search is going to put the LW in a bad place vs Zero or Lightning. $30k for the LW with a 70 mile highway range, 50 min recharge on a FAST charger, 92 mph top speed vs Lighting at $13k, 150mile range, 30 min recharge and a 150mph top speed?? Its a no brainer. And the likelihood is that HD will be facing a much larger player once Lightning or Zero gets acquired by a larger motorcycle maker.

If the LW was $20k it would stand a chance because of the dealer network. But at $30k I don’t see how it makes it past the first couple of years. And HD isn’t known for lowering their prices so the LW will only go higher from $30k. IMO the LW will be pulled from the market faster than Buell.
 

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Originally Posted by polbit
You are really not the target audience, so why not let the new generations decide. Putting down everything that's not an air-cooled V-Twin has been as much to blame for HDs decline as their own success. Just look at the V-Rod, and the potential for new buyers was squandered because of the reception by the core HD crowd.
Well I liked the v rod just too bloody expensive that’s all, so even if I wanted to buy one they was way too rich for my blood.

You can build the bestest motor cycle the universe has ever seen, But if your market don’t see value for money in what their buying,

It just ain’t going to be.

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Originally Posted by Heatwave
Just don’t see how the Livewire ends well for the MoCo. Just the most basic internet search is going to put the LW in a bad place vs Zero or Lightning. $30k for the LW with a 70 mile highway range, 50 min recharge on a FAST charger, 92 mph top speed vs Lighting at $13k, 150mile range, 30 min recharge and a 150mph top speed?? Its a no brainer. And the likelihood is that HD will be facing a much larger player once Lightning or Zero gets acquired by a larger motorcycle maker.

If the LW was $20k it would stand a chance because of the dealer network. But at $30k I don’t see how it makes it past the first couple of years. And HD isn’t known for lowering their prices so the LW will only go higher from $30k. IMO the LW will be pulled from the market faster than Buell.
Yeah but wait till the japs throw their hat in the ring,

There all going to be screwed.

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Originally Posted by FatBob2018
Would it be safe to assume that you are not in the Millennial target market?

Because I don't think any reasonably-thinking person would actually want a 50cc scooter...

In any case, those they showed it to seemed to like it.
Ye kidding right ?
A $500 scoot that you get 60+ to the gallon.

Or a battery powered what ever Harley calls it for a couple grand that can’t go no further than 50-60 miles on a charge.

I don’t care if ya done see it , Bus gas is still king and will be for a freakin long time.

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More new information just released on the Lightning. This thing is looking better by the day.

https://electrek.co/2019/02/14/light...orcycle-motor/
 
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More new information just released on the Lightning. This thing is looking better by the day.

https://electrek.co/2019/02/14/light...orcycle-motor/
OK @ 13k I’m in,
And at that price it’s cheaper than a sporty 👍

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And stock Ohlins!!

These guys came to play.
 
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Originally Posted by IdahoHacker
And stock Ohlins!!

These guys came to play.
Yes Sir they did, and its good to see it’s priced for the masses.

I can’t say I’ve heard of this company, but they sure do have my attention.

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Lightning is a maker of high-end electric motorcycles, and their current model holds the world record for fastest production electric, at 218 mph. $40k.
 
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Originally Posted by IdahoHacker
Lightning is a maker of high-end electric motorcycles, and their current model holds the world record for fastest production electric, at 218 mph. $40k.

40K for a motorcycle when you can have this !



That’s bloody ridiculous Wiz 🍻
 

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