LiveWire Price
 

I was watching CES Panasonic presentation. HD announce the price for pre-order, if I am correct they want $29K, ouch....Zero S top of the line is Around the $20K.... I think HD is to high...

nope nope nope

This is an instant fail for HD

Yes, I tested the bike couple of years ago...and I was waiting for it...but this price is a joke...First $30K, range 130 miles (dont know if is combine, highway or street)... I think they droping the ball specially with all new millennium riders...

Yep, they priced me out.

Harley site

Well Harley had their chance and they really screw this up with pricing

Also if you read the details on the website, there is an app that is only good for 1 year then you have to subscribe/pay.

it's up and official.

https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e.../livewire.html

Found this interesting...

"Vehicle usage data (anonymized where required) will be collected to improve overall vehicle quality and the rider’s experience. Riders will be able to opt out of the service. Detailed data collection and privacy information will be available at the time of service launch."

Everyone is in the tracking business now.

Live Wire $29,799 with estimated 110 mile range. Then of coarse you will have the delivery and taxes on top, just means Harley thinks that there name means people are going to spend that money!

Zero DSR $16,495 This is advertised at near the same range as the HD Live Wire
Zero S $10,995 ZF14.4 option $13,995.00 This gets you a range that is comparable to what HD is saying the Live wire should get.

With a Fall Delivery estimated, it would most likely be a 2020 model.

So HD taxes would be the difference between these bikes of roughly $13K! If I was in the market for an electric bike (which I am not) that's just a lot to steep for a HD badge for my taste.

Noooo (with echo in voice)...I really feel sorry for HD. They are agonizing now.
Is there someone we could call and offer help.
They will make a fuzz around this and other brands will collect buyers with something better for half price.
With taxes and upgrades you could consider an entry level Tesla for this price.

As much as I love this company, it's getting harder and harder to justify these toys.

Agreed