Oil Filters
#11
Thanks for the info. Others can do what they want. But I decided a long time ago to stick with OEM oil filters for everything. Biggest reason being that the pressure relief valve is set to a specific value for the OEM filters. If you buy something else it may or may not be the correct value. Why chance it?
#13
Interesting... the fear.
There is nothing wrong with K&N filters, there is no risk to warranty, and people have been using them for decades. If you like them, use them.
Same with oil. Use what you want, or use ONLY what the manufacturer insists (which pads their pockets). Up to you.
Can we get some examples of HD voiding a warranty claim for using a competitors oil or more specifically, a K&N filter. You won't find one.... piece of mind you say? Where?
There is nothing wrong with K&N filters, there is no risk to warranty, and people have been using them for decades. If you like them, use them.
Same with oil. Use what you want, or use ONLY what the manufacturer insists (which pads their pockets). Up to you.
Can we get some examples of HD voiding a warranty claim for using a competitors oil or more specifically, a K&N filter. You won't find one.... piece of mind you say? Where?
Last edited by lp; 12-03-2016 at 07:35 AM.
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elky72ss454 (12-03-2016)
#14
Interesting... the fear.
There is nothing wrong with K&N filters, there is no risk to warranty, and people have been using them for decades. If you like them, use them.
Same with oil. Use what you want, or use ONLY what the manufacturer insists (which pads their pockets). Up to you.
Can we get some examples of HD voiding a warranty claim for using a competitors oil or more specifically, a K&N filter. You won't find one....
There is nothing wrong with K&N filters, there is no risk to warranty, and people have been using them for decades. If you like them, use them.
Same with oil. Use what you want, or use ONLY what the manufacturer insists (which pads their pockets). Up to you.
Can we get some examples of HD voiding a warranty claim for using a competitors oil or more specifically, a K&N filter. You won't find one....
and re: "or use ONLY what the manufacturer insists (which pads their pockets)"..seems conspiracy theory is prevalent on HD OEM hate..stuff works just fine too, folks complain all the time about OEM stuff being a buck or two more here and there, inferior, etc. after spending $30,000 on their bike...personally I would love Harley Davidson to be a long term successful Corporation...if buying their products which work just fine helps, then why not help support them..but I've always been a HD proprietary product fan boy, always been happy with the fit, finish and performance...Harley owners, despite not being considered the most reliable bikes, have the highest rate of loyalty of any brand and it's not even close.
Last edited by mjwebb; 12-03-2016 at 09:10 AM.
#15
The MOCO makes fine products, makes ownership and maintenance so easy, why shop elsewhere.
Having been in the vehicle maintenance and repair field for over 45 years and current shop owner, I have an opportunity to see lots of aftermarket stuff. My take away from all this experience is that nobody does it better than the OEM.
Having been in the vehicle maintenance and repair field for over 45 years and current shop owner, I have an opportunity to see lots of aftermarket stuff. My take away from all this experience is that nobody does it better than the OEM.
Last edited by sixguns; 12-03-2016 at 10:48 AM. Reason: spelling
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mjwebb (12-03-2016)
#16
no fear here..of course K&N and others will work just fine and people are free to use whatever they want..just not seeing the real world benefit of cost, performance, make your engine last longer, etc...in the rare unlikelihood you have a problem after a DIY/aftermarket engine component related issue..it may come back to bite you
and re: "or use ONLY what the manufacturer insists (which pads their pockets)"..seems conspiracy theory is prevalent on HD OEM hate..stuff works just fine too, folks complain all the time about OEM stuff being a buck or two more here and there, inferior, etc. after spending $30,000 on their bike...personally I would love Harley Davidson to be a long term successful Corporation...if buying their products which work just fine helps, then why not help support them..but I've always been a HD proprietary product fan boy, always been happy with the fit, finish and performance...Harley owners, despite not being considered the most reliable bikes, have the highest rate of loyalty of any brand and it's not even close.
and re: "or use ONLY what the manufacturer insists (which pads their pockets)"..seems conspiracy theory is prevalent on HD OEM hate..stuff works just fine too, folks complain all the time about OEM stuff being a buck or two more here and there, inferior, etc. after spending $30,000 on their bike...personally I would love Harley Davidson to be a long term successful Corporation...if buying their products which work just fine helps, then why not help support them..but I've always been a HD proprietary product fan boy, always been happy with the fit, finish and performance...Harley owners, despite not being considered the most reliable bikes, have the highest rate of loyalty of any brand and it's not even close.
To be a self pronounced "fan-boy" is fine. We all like our bikes and by extension, the MOCO. But you're not teaching anyone anything we don't already know about the MOCO, oil, filters, etc etc. People discuss aftermarket items here daily. The aftermarket does in fact make some pretty quality parts and in a lot of cases perform well beyond what HD uses as OEM in either performance or features (nut on the end). Furthermore, it's that aftermarket that drives HD to improve their own quality...
Good talk.
#17
The HD stuff is fine. Their oil filter does not have a nut on the end. The K&N is better in that regard and will not void your warranty nor come back to bite you, nor lead to the end of HD due to missing profit.
To be a self pronounced "fan-boy" is fine. We all like our bikes and by extension, the MOCO. But you're not teaching anyone anything we don't already know about the MOCO, oil, filters, etc etc. People discuss aftermarket items here daily. The aftermarket does in fact make some pretty quality parts and in a lot of cases perform well beyond what HD uses as OEM in either performance or features (nut on the end). Furthermore, it's that aftermarket that drives HD to improve their own quality...
Good talk.
To be a self pronounced "fan-boy" is fine. We all like our bikes and by extension, the MOCO. But you're not teaching anyone anything we don't already know about the MOCO, oil, filters, etc etc. People discuss aftermarket items here daily. The aftermarket does in fact make some pretty quality parts and in a lot of cases perform well beyond what HD uses as OEM in either performance or features (nut on the end). Furthermore, it's that aftermarket that drives HD to improve their own quality...
Good talk.
#19
#20
re: "From Fram on up there all good." interesting that your reference starts with Fram and they go up from there.....hmmmm
now you'll have to excuse me as I must adjourn to my 'throne'