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artsbest 02-23-2017 03:21 PM

CVO Street Glide/LTD/Breakout
 
Why no M8 114 available in the CVO Breakout? The other two CVO products have it. Sure the Breakout isn't as heavy as the other two but HD could hide the radiator in the lower front of the frame behind the wheel. Painted black and no one would notice it all the while HD would have one mean, lean, riding machine for all of us to consider.

I do not know what the current sales mix numbers at HD are and I'm sure the CVO Breakout lags in comparison sales but why not offer up the new M8 114 in this bike?

goose222 02-23-2017 06:09 PM

Mite be to much power for the lighter weight. Hell, what do I know

BrokenAnchor 02-23-2017 06:39 PM

I don't know either, could it be that the frame is not long enough? Not sure of the Soft Tail frame is the same length and width as a Touring frame. I'm going to check it out, lol.

BrokenAnchor 02-23-2017 06:43 PM

Ok, I just checked, the Touring bikes are a little longer and they have more ground clearance, maybe that's why they don't do the CVO BO in the M8 114. It could also be just the way HD has the production lines set up, M8s in touring this year, than add to the line for different models every other year.

Yamaharley 02-23-2017 07:51 PM

Is this a joke? The m8 was just introduced a few months ago and like harley always does, it only starts with one model line(touring, dyna, softail). The softail will get the m8 next year as the dyna but there is some engineering needed to stuff the m8 in. Even the touring line is supposed to get a new frame in 2018.

riknbeth 02-24-2017 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by artsbest (Post 15963739)
Why no M8 114 available in the CVO Breakout? The other two CVO products have it. Sure the Breakout isn't as heavy as the other two but HD could hide the radiator in the lower front of the frame behind the wheel. Painted black and no one would notice it all the while HD would have one mean, lean, riding machine for all of us to consider.

I do not know what the current sales mix numbers at HD are and I'm sure the CVO Breakout lags in comparison sales but why not offer up the new M8 114 in this bike?

The rollout of the M8 (107 and 114) is following typical Harley marketing strategy. Start with two touring bikes for the CVO, then slowly move to other touring bikes then eventually the rest of the lineup. Touring bikes are their biggest sellers although the Breakout is very strong in Europe. Selling way better than the Rocker that the Breakout replaced. The Breakout and other softails will be a few years out if they follow their standard marketing plans. I am sure there are technical reasons for this also. I know folks are complaining there is no CVO road glide, but guys are just doing the 114 upgrade on those right off the bat.

I traded in my Breakout (which I loved) for an Ultra Limited M8 and have no regrets at all.

artsbest 02-24-2017 07:48 AM

Yes I agree 100% and well stated. Start with the most expensive bikes and then let the engines filter down to the less expensive ones is a common marketing tool. But if they allow for the M8 107 in the Breakout they'll almost be forced to allow for the M8 114 in the CVO Breakout version. If they didn't, there would be no difference between the two bikes.

1plumr1 02-24-2017 08:13 AM

possibly haven't finished the engineering on the "B" motor yet.

riknbeth 02-24-2017 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by 1plumr1 (Post 15965727)
possibly haven't finished the engineering on the "B" motor yet.

The engineering is never done. That is why engineers have job security! :-)

artsbest 02-24-2017 12:33 PM

Always looking to design a better toothbrush too. Engineers have it made today that's for sure.


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