Too loud
#31
06-16-2017, 04:20 PM
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#32
06-16-2017, 06:09 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
Do what! You're sadly mistaken if you think that the muffler(s) don't have an effect on the power output of these bikes!
FWIW, seems like the SE Cannons are one of the better performing mufflers available currently. This via what many of the tuners doing the R&D nationwide are saying...
K.
FWIW, seems like the SE Cannons are one of the better performing mufflers available currently. This via what many of the tuners doing the R&D nationwide are saying...
K.
#33
06-19-2017, 08:15 AM
Got any examples? Or is this just talk.. For then most part mufflers on the M8 don't make much difference until you add a cam that has some overlap. Without overlap, the muffler only make more power by allowing the motor less pressure to evacuate the cylinder.. On higher compression motors this issue makes less of a difference.
The statement that they don't make a difference was a blanket statement, as was my response. In which case they DO make a difference.
In this particular case, the OP's bike does have a camshaft installed, as well as the other upgrades to get to that point. In which case that covers your above statement.
If you've seen Durwood's postings about the different exhaust choices you very well know that they make a difference, regardless of how much or how little, and where within the curve you can see the difference. Add the camshaft to the mix, and other more exotic upgrades and the difference becomes even more noticeable.
K.
#34
06-19-2017, 08:26 AM
Seasoned HDF Member
Max,
The statement that they don't make a difference was a blanket statement, as was my response. In which case they DO make a difference.
In this particular case, the OP's bike does have a camshaft installed, as well as the other upgrades to get to that point. In which case that covers your above statement.
If you've seen Durwood's postings about the different exhaust choices you very well know that they make a difference, regardless of how much or how little, and where within the curve you can see the difference. Add the camshaft to the mix, and other more exotic upgrades and the difference becomes even more noticeable.
K.
The statement that they don't make a difference was a blanket statement, as was my response. In which case they DO make a difference.
In this particular case, the OP's bike does have a camshaft installed, as well as the other upgrades to get to that point. In which case that covers your above statement.
If you've seen Durwood's postings about the different exhaust choices you very well know that they make a difference, regardless of how much or how little, and where within the curve you can see the difference. Add the camshaft to the mix, and other more exotic upgrades and the difference becomes even more noticeable.
K.
If you look at Darren's or Steve Coles' testing, changing the exhaust of a stock motor made little difference.
#35
06-20-2017, 07:19 PM
Agreed I have the stock Head pipe and cannons I think the sound is pretty darn good sounds almost like the stock pipe at cruising speed and a nice throaty bark at FOT. Everyone's perception of sound and what's pleasing or not is quite different and YMMV
#36
06-22-2017, 09:09 PM
I personally like the V&H power dual headers.. no cat and with the Eliminator 400 mufflers it was a huge improvement. I then thought about making it a bit louder and removed the removable baffles.. (there is no packing just a baffle that can be easily removed via 4 screws bolted onto the end cap) took 15 min to remove end caps, remove the 4 hex screws that held up the large baffle, and put the end cap back in place. That thing is loud now. Deep, not raspy, but when you're on it, you know. It's loud but I can't really tell if it's annoyingly loud. I think I'll leave it that way for now, or if others complain then I'll swap to a smaller baffle.
#37
06-23-2017, 07:57 AM
Tourer
The V&H eliminator 400 mufflers do not come with any packing.. It's just one long baffle that is easily removed by removing two screws on the bottom of the end cap. The entire kit (end cap and baffle) slides out as one piece. The baffles themselves are bolted onto the end cap with three hex screws. Remove those and you free up the baffle. This is how they swap for other baffle designs. If you don't want the baffles simply put the end caps back into the mufflers and you're done. Without the baffles the bike sounds really loud with a nice deep rumble but I think it's a bit too loud for me so I opted to just cut down the baffles instead. Cutting the length increases flow and noise but still creates a deep tone.. It also helps create back pressure which you will lose if you go completely baffleless.
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#38
06-23-2017, 12:14 PM
The cannon's did get louder when I added the FM catless head pipe, but it was more about tone than volume. Although I was pretty happy with the cannon's prior to the FM header, the header amplified the volume and also amplified all the things that I really didn't care for in the Cannon's.
The new Rinehart 4.5's are not as loud, and sound incredible. I know sound is subjective, but for me, it's now perfect.
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