NEW S&S Sidewinder 2-1?
#11
02-25-2018, 04:50 PM
Have you looked at the Bassani by chance? I'm glad to see S&S with a 2-1 out now. I did find a couple videos that gave a clip of the sound and it didn't seem to bad. I also like the FM Road n Track. I like a loud pipe when I want it loud, but I also want a mellow pipe at highway speeds. I decided I'm upgrading pipes and been debating FM 2-1-2, but by the time I buy that and muffs, I'm back to the price of the FM, S&S or Bassani 2-1. I had the D&D Billet Cat on my '16 RGU and it was quite mellow I thought.
#12
02-25-2018, 05:17 PM
Have you looked at the Bassani by chance? I'm glad to see S&S with a 2-1 out now. I did find a couple videos that gave a clip of the sound and it didn't seem to bad. I also like the FM Road n Track. I like a loud pipe when I want it loud, but I also want a mellow pipe at highway speeds. I decided I'm upgrading pipes and been debating FM 2-1-2, but by the time I buy that and muffs, I'm back to the price of the FM, S&S or Bassani 2-1. I had the D&D Billet Cat on my '16 RGU and it was quite mellow I thought.
#13
02-25-2018, 06:35 PM
I hear ya....some have looks I can't get past. Do you have a sound clip of what yours sounds like now? The 2-1's do perform better, but either way I go I'm paying close to $1k for an exhaust setup. FM 2-1-2 header, $499, plus black heat shields, another $250 or so. I could keep the V&H Eliminator's I have and save a little, FM has said they see good performance with those. Or I spend close to the same for a 2-1. The only drawback to me on a 2-1 is it looks off with only the 1 pipe.
#14
02-25-2018, 07:06 PM
I hear ya....some have looks I can't get past. Do you have a sound clip of what yours sounds like now? The 2-1's do perform better, but either way I go I'm paying close to $1k for an exhaust setup. FM 2-1-2 header, $499, plus black heat shields, another $250 or so. I could keep the V&H Eliminator's I have and save a little, FM has said they see good performance with those. Or I spend close to the same for a 2-1. The only drawback to me on a 2-1 is it looks off with only the 1 pipe.
Agreed the 2-1's look a little funny and S&S already confirmed they will NOT make a ghost pipe for their Sidewinder, so there's that.
#15
02-25-2018, 07:27 PM
I don't unfortunately. I already took off my FM hi-rollers in anticipation of my Street Cannons being delivered this week, but I can definitely post a clip if I decide to install the SE's after all. Keep in mind though that I've got the catless header and a Woods cam in there.
Agreed the 2-1's look a little funny and S&S already confirmed they will NOT make a ghost pipe for their Sidewinder, so there's that.
Agreed the 2-1's look a little funny and S&S already confirmed they will NOT make a ghost pipe for their Sidewinder, so there's that.
#17
02-26-2018, 08:26 AM
Jamie has already tested their 2-1 with the 222 cam & it showed a significant left side increase, keep up with the game. There are more tests than just on this forum,all have shown better low end tq with a 2-1. All you have to do is look at the design of the stock header, the left side just has a 1.75 inch pipe welded in at a 90* angle, very bad for flow. The right side is a 2.5 inch outlet into that muffler, guess which one is going to flow more? The left side, even at idle, is flowing substantially less than the right muffler. The left muffler is just a glorified ghost pipe that will see very little flow at upper RPMs. There are several single slip on mufflers that just cap off the left side outlet to make a low cost 2-1 with the stock headpipe, Khrome Werks has one they call The Torque Booster. Although I haven't seen any charts I've used their products & they perform as claimed. The ratio between intake port flow to exhaust port flow is greater than the TCs, the exhaust flow is a much less, making the exhaust much more critical to try to even out the flow.
#19
04-25-2018, 09:25 PM
Hey Pittz. I heard the S&S MK45 slipons on an M8 just yesterday and they sounded really good (I know you were looking st the 2-1 system....). It is the best I have heard our new engine sound with just the muffler. I have Kerker Stout 4” slipons that I like the sound quality of but the S&S’s were louder and better imo. If just a muffler, those would be my pick. I did not get a chance to hear any slipons in person when I got mine. If I had I would have the S&S MK 45’s!
good luck.
Btw, if you ever come to Milwaukee there is a dealer in the south side called House of Harley that has these and a bunch more you can listen to. They have a 2-1 on one of their bikes too but I’m not sure which one it is. But I agree it didn’t sound great to me. They also have various ape bars you can demo on their bikes. It’s a great place.
good luck.
Btw, if you ever come to Milwaukee there is a dealer in the south side called House of Harley that has these and a bunch more you can listen to. They have a 2-1 on one of their bikes too but I’m not sure which one it is. But I agree it didn’t sound great to me. They also have various ape bars you can demo on their bikes. It’s a great place.