I'm Not happy that everything is going up but the paycheck... ie. taxes,cable tv, insurance, food, power, ECT but it is and that goes for Harley Davidson as well. So in the Immortal words of Joe Walsh get over it... nobody said life was fair. But life on a brand new Harley Davidson, we'll I'm willing to pay to get me some of that... lol bikes keep you right in the head... how much is that worth?

 

I agree. It sounds like you run a tight ship, and your guys respect that. Most union jobs have detailed job descriptions that often include the wording: and other duties as assigned. It's up to non-union management to assign those duties. If a union employee is fired for refusing to clean a toilet because it's "not my job", the union can do little to protect him/her.

 

Buyers Remorse is HELL; isn't it................

 

You forgot to mention the rising cost of health care...we just went through the annual renewal here for health insurance and the increase in cost was staggering. All the weekly premiums across the board went up and some plans went up by 150% per week.


But to address the point that some of what you pay is for life on a brand new HD...I usually consider some of what I pay for the bike is entertainment expense. When people say they can't believe I pay for a bike I respond that I can't believe they pay to go to the movies every week, or to rent movies, etc. We often jump on the bike and just ride around the area for a couple hours or most of a day without really doing anything else or having a destination.

 

I disagree that union labor 'is the reason for high MSRP's.' Go to seedealercost.com and play around. The transfer cost from HD to the dealer is less than most of its competition. When you buy that new shiny bike you are prepaying for a lot of coffee and donuts at every weekend event at the dealership!

Puts things into a bit different perspective, eh? Look at the dealer cost of the new Goldwing; the new Venture; the new K1600B..eye openers how little margin on those bikes.

 

Yep ×2 on the health care thing... and now that you mention it the cost of entertainment is a good way to look at it. Take for example some people are bar people. That's there entertainment right? Well that can be and probably is as expensive as my bike habits... Not to mention it could be bad for my health as well. Good point you had there.

 

The price of a new Harley is expensive, but like others have said, so is everything else.

 

I think the whole HDs are overpriced is basically outdated. Just like how the AMF days still affects HD with the rep that they aren't reliable, I think up until the early 2000s Japanese bikes were much cheaper than HDs. I also think I heard that in the 80s and 90s yen were very weak against the dollar, which allowed the Japanese manufacturers to turn nice profits while selling for much less than HD.

 

Yup, stuff is alot, and people pay for it.

 

and then there is the current cost of Ammo !!


My wife likes to play the slots.. It takes approx $20 to keep her entained for an hour.. compare that to the cost of going to a movie with their $8 Soda and $10 Popcorn >>> Cheap Date, and sometime she wins ||