Milwaukee Eight (M8) 2017 and up M8 Air and Liquid Cooled discussion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

lotsa' repair and service today

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #11  
Old 05-30-2018, 08:05 AM
Ron750's Avatar
Ron750
Ron750 is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 28,842
Received 16,515 Likes on 6,271 Posts
Default

I spend about a $1,000 a year at my Indy, or a dealer. They find things I never suspected were wrong. So I can ride a 15 year old bike with confidence. It's a lot cheaper than a new bike. Failure's not an option on two wheels.

 

Last edited by Ron750; 05-30-2018 at 08:36 AM.
The following users liked this post:
mjwebb (05-30-2018)
  #12  
Old 05-30-2018, 10:04 AM
teedoff65's Avatar
teedoff65
teedoff65 is online now
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: High Point, NC.
Posts: 5,617
Received 1,474 Likes on 1,061 Posts
Default

So being a new Harley rider....well a year now. What sound would one hear with a bearing going bad? I do hear some kind of noise only when cornering to the left, but just figured it was tire noise.
 
  #13  
Old 05-30-2018, 10:05 AM
Cbyway's Avatar
Cbyway
Cbyway is offline
Outstanding HDF Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Great State of Texas
Posts: 2,008
Received 786 Likes on 467 Posts
Default

Interesting. I've never had bearings fail and figured there would be some warning. Scary stuff. The cheap bearings they use from the factory give me no consolation or comfort if the dealer just replaces with the same bearings again. Damn, that seems awful soon for bearing failure.
 
  #14  
Old 05-30-2018, 10:11 AM
mjwebb's Avatar
mjwebb
mjwebb is online now
Seasoned HDF Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: State of Confusion
Posts: 11,861
Received 8,519 Likes on 4,422 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by teedoff65
So being a new Harley rider....well a year now. What sound would one hear with a bearing going bad? I do hear some kind of noise only when cornering to the left, but just figured it was tire noise.
yeah, one would think there would be telltale noise, but honestly, with my hearing, exhaust and my Shoei GT Air helmet which is like the 'cone of silence', and my other helmets I wear ear plugs, I could understand missing something
 
  #15  
Old 05-30-2018, 11:30 AM
DaddyKnuck's Avatar
DaddyKnuck
DaddyKnuck is offline
Extreme HDF Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Blairsville GA
Posts: 17,623
Received 1,658 Likes on 943 Posts
Default

I had my '17 RK at the dealer last week for a new safety switch and to replace leaking front cylinder gaskets. When they test rode the bike after fixing the problems the tech noticed a "roar" from the front wheel and they replaced the wheel bearings. I had not heard anything, but I'm glad they did.
 
The following 2 users liked this post by DaddyKnuck:
mjwebb (05-30-2018), MTBIG G (05-30-2018)
  #16  
Old 05-30-2018, 01:31 PM
KrustyKush's Avatar
KrustyKush
KrustyKush is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Menifee, CA
Posts: 1,143
Received 431 Likes on 287 Posts
Default

I used to work on postal automation machines. Each machine used hundreds of sealed bearings to drive belts that carried the letters. What I learned about bearings doing that work, is that there are quite a few different failure indications. They don't all make a lot of noise. But usually they do make some noise. The quality of the noise can be grinding, or howling. Often there is vibration. Some bearings don't make enough noise to be heard over the ambient sounds of the machine, but oily dirt will start to show up around the bearing in the early stages.

We would use infrared heat to get early detection of bearings nearing end of life, and try to replace them proactively to avoid downtime.

Many times, a bearing would start to howl and the pulley would fall off the shaft a few minutes later. Other times, a bearing could howl all night long, but keep running until end of shift so it could be replaced during maintenance periods.

I figure these sealed wheel bearings will also have a wide range of failure indications.
 
  #17  
Old 05-30-2018, 02:54 PM
sfcmo357's Avatar
sfcmo357
sfcmo357 is offline
Road Warrior
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Fayetteville, NC
Posts: 1,739
Received 152 Likes on 60 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mjwebb
all things considered if you add it all up it's not a "shock" with dealership labor

20K service
new rear tire installed
all three hydraulic systems flushed
steering head bearing adjustment
rear brake pads installed

the rest of the service and repair items were covered under warranty
I'm not familiar with the 20K service yet............flushing hydraulic system, steering head bearing adjustment aren't part of the price for 20K service. I would think it would be 20K service plus cost of rear brake pads and new tire installed.
 
  #18  
Old 05-30-2018, 03:12 PM
mjwebb's Avatar
mjwebb
mjwebb is online now
Seasoned HDF Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: State of Confusion
Posts: 11,861
Received 8,519 Likes on 4,422 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by sfcmo357
I'm not familiar with the 20K service yet............flushing hydraulic system, steering head bearing adjustment aren't part of the price for 20K service. I would think it would be 20K service plus cost of rear brake pads and new tire installed.
yeah, the service schedule in the manual states 2 years for the the fluid flush which is an extra service..they say the steering head should be adjusted as part of the 25K service..but is an extra charge if you want it done outside of that interval, which I did..I don't know if there are dealers that would include that in their 25K service, or any interval or not, ours doesn't for the same cost. the 5,15, 25 service intervals are much less involved and require less items being done...the thing is, as far as my experience goes over many years, bikes and miles...dealerships don't follow the MOCO service schedule verbatim by default..some replace spark plugs at every service despite it stating every 2 years or 30K miles, some do tranny fluid every 5 or 10K despite it stating annually or 20K, etc, etc..lots of interpretations and manipulations going on by the dealerships which are allowed to develop and provide services at their discretion..bottom line is it is not consistent across the network in what they do and how much they charge
 

Last edited by mjwebb; 05-30-2018 at 03:16 PM.
  #19  
Old 05-30-2018, 06:12 PM
sfcmo357's Avatar
sfcmo357
sfcmo357 is offline
Road Warrior
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Fayetteville, NC
Posts: 1,739
Received 152 Likes on 60 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mjwebb
yeah, the service schedule in the manual states 2 years for the the fluid flush which is an extra service..they say the steering head should be adjusted as part of the 25K service..but is an extra charge if you want it done outside of that interval, which I did..I don't know if there are dealers that would include that in their 25K service, or any interval or not, ours doesn't for the same cost. the 5,15, 25 service intervals are much less involved and require less items being done...the thing is, as far as my experience goes over many years, bikes and miles...dealerships don't follow the MOCO service schedule verbatim by default..some replace spark plugs at every service despite it stating every 2 years or 30K miles, some do tranny fluid every 5 or 10K despite it stating annually or 20K, etc, etc..lots of interpretations and manipulations going on by the dealerships which are allowed to develop and provide services at their discretion..bottom line is it is not consistent across the network in what they do and how much they charge
I got some free services on my 13 SG when I saw the dealer charge me for fluid changes that weren’t required and then said .....”we like to change that every 5k”........I replied, “I don’t, so drain ur new fluids out, put mine back in or take that charge off because that’s not apart of this service as per the service manual” lol
 
  #20  
Old 05-30-2018, 06:53 PM
toddskill's Avatar
toddskill
toddskill is offline
Tourer
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: .
Posts: 264
Received 54 Likes on 44 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by sfcmo357


I got some free services on my 13 SG when I saw the dealer charge me for fluid changes that weren’t required and then said .....”we like to change that every 5k”........I replied, “I don’t, so drain ur new fluids out, put mine back in or take that charge off because that’s not apart of this service as per the service manual” lol
One of my local dealers is the same, if you dont specify by the book, then you get "their 5k interval service" which is all 3 holes and new plugs, plus the time savings of them skipping over most of the checks they are supposed to do.
 


Quick Reply: lotsa' repair and service today



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:58 AM.