Have you tried soft brake levers? or bending your to sit closer to your grips. It did make a big difference with mine. If those damper seats don't work for you.
Thanks for the info, but... I've seen those levers, I'm not a fan. I don't like the looks of the adjustable levers and consider a bent lever, well... just a bent lever... Kind of a "Mickey Mouse repair", as we used to say years ago...
I'm used to it now, only notice it for awhile after switching from one of my other older, cable bikes.... but if I could change a spring seat so everything works as designed and it's got a better release point, I would consider that a properly engineered fix...
Thanks for the info, but... I've seen those levers, I'm not a fan. I don't like the looks of the adjustable levers and consider a bent lever, well... just a bent lever... Kind of a "Mickey Mouse repair", as we used to say years ago...
I'm used to it now, only notice it for awhile after switching from one of my other older, cable bikes.... but if I could change a spring seat so everything works as designed and it's got a better release point, I would consider that a properly engineered fix...
I put the SoftBrakes’ reduced reach clutch lever on my 17 Limited and the reach is just right. Looking at it you would never know it is "bent". It is the shape that Harley should make the OEM lever to start with.
A common complaint from 2017/18 owners is the clutch feel. Many are annoyed with the clutch engagement which takes place right at the beginning of the hand lever action, furthermost from the grip.
Some have bought the adjustable Oberon hand lever or had their OEM lever bent so that the clutch is not engaged/disengaged until mid swing of the hand lever or closer to the grip anyway.
One of the changes for 2019 was a new Spring Damper Seat. This seat is basically just a big metal ring that sits against the pressure plate that properly spaces a damper spring between itself and the clutch pack.
The spring and seat together do mechanical stuff, not getting into it.
2017/18 bikes came with damper seat part number: 37000036. 2019 bikes came with a new damper seat part number : 37000295 ($12.60).
So... long story short, I changed the seat on my 2017. Very happy to report that it worked wonderfully.
When you consider the full movement of the hand lever, it always either engaged or disengaged the clutch right at the end of the action (furthermost away from the grip).
Now it is almost dead center of the range. It feels like a pre-2017 clutch now. Like "Normal".
If you're going to ask if the clutch engagement/disengagement range is now wider... it feels that way, but I think it probably has more to do with it being closer to the grip and thus more controllable than being actually wider. Dunno.
If you're going to ask if the little clutch/shift feedback is still felt in the lever when you shift, Yes, still there.
Pic below that will probably mean nothing to most people but allows me to show off my counter tops again.
The ring to the left is the new Damper Seat which is thicker than the original seat on the right by maybe a few thousands. Not much. Made a big difference though.
So if you're on the fence about buying a 100 dollar lever or whatever to address this issue, maybe give the damper seat a try first - it's an option anyway and only cost a few dollars.
You do have to remove the primary cover and disassemble the clutch but it's pretty simple to do all that. I didn't even replace the primary cover gasket for like the 8th time. Those things last forever...
Anyway, hope this helps somebody...
Great info find there, LP!!!!
I'm curious, where did you find the fix and part # for that? Where ever you found it, thanks for letting everybody here know about it?
Did you install it or did Lowcountry?
Great info find there, LP!!!!
I'm curious, where did you find the fix and part # for that? Where ever you found it, thanks for letting everybody here know about it?
Did you install it or did Lowcountry?
I found the damper seat info on another thread, although I forget who it was I should give credit to. I just wanted to tell everyone that it actually worked.
I did the install myself. Took about 1.5 hours. Easy.
Thanks for the info, but... I've seen those levers, I'm not a fan. I don't like the looks of the adjustable levers and consider a bent lever, well... just a bent lever... Kind of a "Mickey Mouse repair", as we used to say years ago...
I'm used to it now, only notice it for awhile after switching from one of my other older, cable bikes.... but if I could change a spring seat so everything works as designed and it's got a better release point, I would consider that a properly engineered fix...
Yeah I dont like the looks of the adjustable levers either. The softbrake levers, as said above, look stock but are shaped to be closer to your grip. For me the "feeling" was improved as well, with regards to the clutch action.
One of the changes for 2019 was a new Spring Damper Seat. This seat is basically just a big metal ring that sits against the pressure plate that properly spaces a damper spring between itself and the clutch pack.
The spring and seat together do mechanical stuff, not getting into it.
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It's pretty simple. The spring and seat provide a preload to all the frictions except for the narrower friction that is along side the spring and spacer. This light preload sets when the clutch starts to engage. By increasing the thickness of the ring the spring starts to preload the clutch stack earlier and making the clutch engage earlier. GOOD fix IMO.. I plan on trying it.
10-10-2018, 07:32 PM
