Should I do it?
#21
11-17-2018, 07:34 PM
Club Member
#22
11-17-2018, 07:42 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
yeah, if someone has patience, I'm off the belief it's not if but when the mono shock frame makes its way to the Touring lineup like all the others..of course it could be awhile still so there's that
#23
11-17-2018, 09:25 PM
Road Captain
...if you end up doing this deal, I'd watch the final numbers real close if I were you. Alot of times dealers will say they'll give you "X amount" of dollars for a particular trade, then when you actually show up ready to do the deal, they'll want $20K from you and you're getting $8K for your bike. Not saying they all do this, but I've seen done more than a few times.
#24
11-17-2018, 09:55 PM
Cruiser
So I was passing through Georgia and stopped into a dealership to buy some gloves. While there I got suckered into a test ride with the lure of a $25.00 gift card. So there I am, telling salesman that I have zero intention of buying a new motorcycle, next thing I know I'm waking up in the finance manager's office talking numbers. I told him that I have zero intention of buying a new bike, and that he would have to give me the most stupid, low, ridiculous price ever to get me even thinking about buying it. Well guess what he did :-) So here's the situation:
I currently have a 2014 SGS with 48,000 miles. It's got a little wear and tear, but it's in overall good shape. I was looking at a 2019 Ultra Limited, ~$28,000. Between my trade in and reduction in the price of the new bike, he has me out the door at $15,000 even. I also have $1,040 credit on my ESP, so I would be out the door at $13,960. Just as a comparison, a few months ago I was looking at a 2018 Ultra Limited at my local dealership. They have a great relationship with the police department that I retired from and give the officers a great deal. I have purchased both of my Harleys from them and I have been out the door at about 90% of sticker both times, so I know they take care of me. Their out the door price on the 2018 was approximately $19,000. As a comparison, the payoff on my bike is around $2,500, and was around $3,500 when I was dealing with the other dealership a few months ago.
Is this a special deal, or are the dealers hard up to sell the new bikes? I've been out of the loop for a while. What's the scoop on the 2019s? Are they plagued by bugs and mechanical issues? Are the new upgrades worth it?
Really appreciate any input.
I currently have a 2014 SGS with 48,000 miles. It's got a little wear and tear, but it's in overall good shape. I was looking at a 2019 Ultra Limited, ~$28,000. Between my trade in and reduction in the price of the new bike, he has me out the door at $15,000 even. I also have $1,040 credit on my ESP, so I would be out the door at $13,960. Just as a comparison, a few months ago I was looking at a 2018 Ultra Limited at my local dealership. They have a great relationship with the police department that I retired from and give the officers a great deal. I have purchased both of my Harleys from them and I have been out the door at about 90% of sticker both times, so I know they take care of me. Their out the door price on the 2018 was approximately $19,000. As a comparison, the payoff on my bike is around $2,500, and was around $3,500 when I was dealing with the other dealership a few months ago.
Is this a special deal, or are the dealers hard up to sell the new bikes? I've been out of the loop for a while. What's the scoop on the 2019s? Are they plagued by bugs and mechanical issues? Are the new upgrades worth it?
Really appreciate any input.
I just did the same thing, traded in my 14 SGS with 14,000 miles in on a 19 Limited. I got the 19 for $13,000 and my bike. I had less miles than you and plenty of extras, and went with a black Limited for comparison.
#25
11-18-2018, 01:37 AM
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#26
11-18-2018, 01:56 AM
Road Warrior
I think the whole ESP thing as a bonus is a crock of crap'o'la......That is a separate deal, do you want ESP or not.
Get the best price on a bike you can, if that works then do the deal.
If you have to finance the deal then they got you, but do not buy into the ESP bullshit.
It is all about the law of averages, for them to cover potential cost.
The dealer gets all the money because the loss never happens. Yeah, peace of mind, blah, blah, blah.
Just my opinion......
Get the best price on a bike you can, if that works then do the deal.
If you have to finance the deal then they got you, but do not buy into the ESP bullshit.
It is all about the law of averages, for them to cover potential cost.
The dealer gets all the money because the loss never happens. Yeah, peace of mind, blah, blah, blah.
Just my opinion......
#27
11-18-2018, 09:27 AM
Seasoned HDF Member
I think the whole ESP thing as a bonus is a crock of crap'o'la......That is a separate deal, do you want ESP or not.
Get the best price on a bike you can, if that works then do the deal.
If you have to finance the deal then they got you, but do not buy into the ESP bullshit.
It is all about the law of averages, for them to cover potential cost.
The dealer gets all the money because the loss never happens. Yeah, peace of mind, blah, blah, blah.
Just my opinion......
Get the best price on a bike you can, if that works then do the deal.
If you have to finance the deal then they got you, but do not buy into the ESP bullshit.
It is all about the law of averages, for them to cover potential cost.
The dealer gets all the money because the loss never happens. Yeah, peace of mind, blah, blah, blah.
Just my opinion......
#28
11-18-2018, 02:20 PM
Out the door price is sometimes used incorrectly by sales people and sometimes buyers .
For me, an out the door price is the final number after all numbers for tax, tag, title and whatever fee's are tabulated.
The final number is when it comes time to write a check.
Purchasing a newer version of an operational vehicle when there is still a loan, to then acquire a new larger loan works for some but it works against others.
Having a loan forever sucks....it is a nice feeling when stuff gets paid off and there is no note.
If it is something you want and it financially works for you then all is well, but research the finance terms.
For me, an out the door price is the final number after all numbers for tax, tag, title and whatever fee's are tabulated.
The final number is when it comes time to write a check.
Purchasing a newer version of an operational vehicle when there is still a loan, to then acquire a new larger loan works for some but it works against others.
Having a loan forever sucks....it is a nice feeling when stuff gets paid off and there is no note.
If it is something you want and it financially works for you then all is well, but research the finance terms.
#29
11-18-2018, 08:31 PM
Not asking for permission, more like input on whether or not 1. The 2019s are good bikes and 2. The deal I’ve been presented is a good one. I hate buying something and finding out later that I could have done better, or worse, finding out that I bought a problem prone POS.
EXACTLY the reason I bought a 2016 Street Glide -- last year of the twin cam, goes discount to the 2017+ and whatever issues/recalls they've had are now well known.
give that M8 engine another year or so -- the seeping issue to the primary is just the worst "non-issue" issue I've heard about, and I'm not in the know at all -- but it was enough to point me to a 2016 .........
#30
11-18-2018, 08:50 PM
Grand HDF Member