Best warranty compliant mods
#11
Thanks for the advice guys. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not looking for a crotch rocket. If I wanted that I could get it for half the price. What drove me crazy about the new one on the test ride is the throttle lag. It feels like it does when I’m in my diesel truck waiting for the turbo to kick in when you apply the throttle. Between fixing that and shedding some of the heat, I know a good stage 2 will be needed. Doc Harley tuned both of my previous HDs and he’s a miracle worker on the Dyno, so I’ve gotten really spoiled. If it weren’t for the warranty issue he would do this one also. I’m just at a point in life where I don’t need to worry about even the potential of a warranty issue. I want to ride worry free.
#12
I think the Bike will "wake up" after a few miles on it & you might find it's just fine the way it is, especially with the twin cooled motor. If the heat is too much for your liking you can go with the Street Cannons or if you're willing to spend the extra $$ go with the full SE exhaust set-up. That moves the cats back into the mufflers to get the heat away from you, to keep the warranty you'll have to use the street tuner with it's limited capabilities, but there are some tuners that have learned how to use them to get the most out of them, it seems as though the shop that did mjwebb's did a good job. You might talk to Doc & see if he'd give it a shot.
#14
Thanks for the advice guys. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not looking for a crotch rocket. If I wanted that I could get it for half the price. What drove me crazy about the new one on the test ride is the throttle lag. It feels like it does when I’m in my diesel truck waiting for the turbo to kick in when you apply the throttle. Between fixing that and shedding some of the heat, I know a good stage 2 will be needed. Doc Harley tuned both of my previous HDs and he’s a miracle worker on the Dyno, so I’ve gotten really spoiled. If it weren’t for the warranty issue he would do this one also. I’m just at a point in life where I don’t need to worry about even the potential of a warranty issue. I want to ride worry free.
#15
#16
To stay warranty-compliant, you must not use any aftermarket tuner. All aftermarket tuners cause immediate warranty voiding. The ONLY tuner that retains the warranty is the Screaming Eagle Pro Street Tuner. No dealer can stop Harley from voiding a warranty on a bike that has used an aftermarket tuner.
If you want performance mods that keep the warranty intact, that's exactly what the Screaming Eagle Stage kits are. A Stage II can boost HP and torque by 25% or more, a Stage IV boosts HP by around 40%.
If you want to go aftermarket,.as long as the parts you use are declared by the manufacturer as EPA-compliant and have a CARB certificate, they will not affect the warranty (unless those parts fail and cause damage to otherwise warrantied parts).
There is some gray area with dealers when you are using aftermarket non-compliant parts; some dealers are willing to cheat Harley on the customer's behalf by refusing to report the mods the customer has made; other dealers will not risk it.
If you want to guarantee warranty-compliant status, go with the Screaming Eagle kits. They may not provide every last HP and ft/lb, but they do result in big performance gains and they will be warrantied and emissions compliant. If you get the Stage upgrade done before your 60th day of ownership, the parts will be added to your VIN and counted as factory original and covered under the full manufacturer 2-year warranty as well as under any extended warranty too.
If you want performance mods that keep the warranty intact, that's exactly what the Screaming Eagle Stage kits are. A Stage II can boost HP and torque by 25% or more, a Stage IV boosts HP by around 40%.
If you want to go aftermarket,.as long as the parts you use are declared by the manufacturer as EPA-compliant and have a CARB certificate, they will not affect the warranty (unless those parts fail and cause damage to otherwise warrantied parts).
There is some gray area with dealers when you are using aftermarket non-compliant parts; some dealers are willing to cheat Harley on the customer's behalf by refusing to report the mods the customer has made; other dealers will not risk it.
If you want to guarantee warranty-compliant status, go with the Screaming Eagle kits. They may not provide every last HP and ft/lb, but they do result in big performance gains and they will be warrantied and emissions compliant. If you get the Stage upgrade done before your 60th day of ownership, the parts will be added to your VIN and counted as factory original and covered under the full manufacturer 2-year warranty as well as under any extended warranty too.
#17
Thanks for the advice guys. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not looking for a crotch rocket. If I wanted that I could get it for half the price. What drove me crazy about the new one on the test ride is the throttle lag. It feels like it does when I’m in my diesel truck waiting for the turbo to kick in when you apply the throttle. Between fixing that and shedding some of the heat, I know a good stage 2 will be needed. Doc Harley tuned both of my previous HDs and he’s a miracle worker on the Dyno, so I’ve gotten really spoiled. If it weren’t for the warranty issue he would do this one also. I’m just at a point in life where I don’t need to worry about even the potential of a warranty issue. I want to ride worry free.
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jpalm (11-17-2018)
#18
Reduce heat is already done....way less radiant heat from the M8 engine. Do not buy into the gotta do modifications right away.
Ride the bike and enjoy it for what the factory has provided. Then any mod you do will allow you to realize the gains.
Just like social media, we buy into the hype, bigger is better. More power is the way to go.....where do we stop?
How can a stock 114 engine be good enough? My last (whatever) was so powerful.....WTF
Ride the bike and enjoy it for what the factory has provided. Then any mod you do will allow you to realize the gains.
Just like social media, we buy into the hype, bigger is better. More power is the way to go.....where do we stop?
How can a stock 114 engine be good enough? My last (whatever) was so powerful.....WTF
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mjwebb (11-18-2018)
#19
Reduce heat is already done....way less radiant heat from the M8 engine. Do not buy into the gotta do modifications right away.
Ride the bike and enjoy it for what the factory has provided. Then any mod you do will allow you to realize the gains.
Just like social media, we buy into the hype, bigger is better. More power is the way to go.....where do we stop?
How can a stock 114 engine be good enough? My last (whatever) was so powerful.....WTF
Ride the bike and enjoy it for what the factory has provided. Then any mod you do will allow you to realize the gains.
Just like social media, we buy into the hype, bigger is better. More power is the way to go.....where do we stop?
How can a stock 114 engine be good enough? My last (whatever) was so powerful.....WTF
I think im just getting old.
#20