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Old 01-06-2019, 02:31 PM
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Much lower odds of sumping under the riding conditions you describe but not impossible. A different or future rider with a different riding style could induce sumping. Also hotter temps and certain shifting conditions on backroads appears to increase the risk of sumping. Try the simple sumping test I described and you’ll have a much better understanding of whether or not your bike is at risk for sumping.
When Heatwave arrives and all four lines of his text feature the word Sumping.Thats how you know your bike is just about to
SUMP!
 
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When Heatwave arrives and all four lines of his text feature the word Sumping.Thats how you know your bike is just about to
SUMP!
Particularly in a thread titled "How do I know if/when my bike is sumping?"
 
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Where are you draining the oil from to measure?
 
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I am just getting mine fixed from sumping. If you get less than 6oz of oil out when checking it's with in factory standards and they will only supply the oil pump for free and you will have to pay for the labor. I noticed a power loss when I suspected an issue.
 
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I am just getting mine fixed from sumping. If you get less than 6oz of oil out when checking it's with in factory standards and they will only supply the oil pump for free and you will have to pay for the labor. I noticed a power loss when I suspected an issue.
6 oz from where?
 
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I am just getting mine fixed from sumping. If you get less than 6oz of oil out when checking it's with in factory standards and they will only supply the oil pump for free and you will have to pay for the labor. I noticed a power loss when I suspected an issue.
Factory warranty would also include labor under your two year warranty.
 
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I am just getting mine fixed from sumping. If you get less than 6oz of oil out when checking it's with in factory standards and they will only supply the oil pump for free and you will have to pay for the labor. I noticed a power loss when I suspected an issue.
How many onces does it take to get it all under warranty?? That makes no to sense to me 6oz and get half warranty
 
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How many onces does it take to get it all under warranty?? That makes no to sense to me 6oz and get half warranty
If you can get 3-5 ounces out of your crankcase, you can be absolutely sure that with a little harder riding you can get more than 6 ounces out of the crankcase. Take the bike as is and keep riding til they cover ALL costs.

Either the engine is defective and covered under warranty...or its not defective. Don’t let them squeeze your wallet to cover THEIR costs.
 
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If you can get 3-5 ounces out of your crankcase, you can be absolutely sure that with a little harder riding you can get more than 6 ounces out of the crankcase. Take the bike as is and keep riding til they cover ALL costs.

Either the engine is defective and covered under warranty...or its not defective. Don’t let them squeeze your wallet to cover THEIR costs.
We have two 18s no issue with sumping yet. What i dont understand is how the warranty is only covering the pump, not the labour, To me if its sumping, its sumping. not measuring to see if its has 5oz or 6oz.to see if its pump only. It should be covered totally by warranty.
 
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Originally Posted by SMR65
We have two 18s no issue with sumping yet. What i dont understand is how the warranty is only covering the pump, not the labour, To me if its sumping, its sumping. not measuring to see if its has 5oz or 6oz.to see if its pump only. It should be covered totally by warranty.
Oil accumulates down there during normal operation, and will get scavenged out. The problem occurs when too much oil accumulates, and the crankshaft gets submerged. And that can lead to a whole host of problems, from mild power loss all the way to catastrophic engine damage.

According to the last service bulletin I saw, 6 ounces is what they consider the threshold for it being a problem. Under 6 ounces, nothing gets hurt (apparently); over 6 ounces and they figure that some damage may have been done, and that clearly the bike has a problem outside "normal" parameters.
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