I have a powervision , do I NEED a TTS??
#21
01-12-2019, 06:17 PM
Road Warrior
Just a little bit of misconception in this post, the PV won't be "wiped", the $200 is for a license to use it on another bike. I use PV on my bikes and I can switch seamlessly between them, plug it in and it recognizes it, same holds true for friend's bikes I have tuned, no need for separate VCI for each bike, just the license, which can be used with any PV
OP, sounds like the dealer will be doing the install and tune? I understand the tuner wanting to use the platform they are most comfortable with but hanging the warranty over your head to get you to buy it seems like a shitty business practice to me. Both PV & TTS are very capable tuners, IMO they will both get you to the same place(a proper tune) but they have different ways of getting there, think of maybe the difference between iphone and android
#22
01-12-2019, 06:23 PM
#23
01-12-2019, 09:05 PM
HD EFI Guru
The above statement is not true at all, Mastertune has several more tuning features not in a PV. While the PV can and does tune the bike, it cannot do what Mastertune does. A big thing to remember is that the tech is the one running the software and letting them use what they like to use, typically gets you better results.
#25
01-12-2019, 09:43 PM
Club Member
Mastertune makes a complete copy of the ECM prior to installing a calibration, when restoring that into the ECM it makes the ECM to exactly how it was prior to being used, the PV does not.
The above statement is not true at all, Mastertune has several more tuning features not in a PV. While the PV can and does tune the bike, it cannot do what Mastertune does. A big thing to remember is that the tech is the one running the software and letting them use what they like to use, typically gets you better results.
The above statement is not true at all, Mastertune has several more tuning features not in a PV. While the PV can and does tune the bike, it cannot do what Mastertune does. A big thing to remember is that the tech is the one running the software and letting them use what they like to use, typically gets you better results.
Thanks.
#26
01-13-2019, 07:02 AM
Road Warrior
Mastertune makes a complete copy of the ECM prior to installing a calibration, when restoring that into the ECM it makes the ECM to exactly how it was prior to being used, the PV does not.
The above statement is not true at all, Mastertune has several more tuning features not in a PV. While the PV can and does tune the bike, it cannot do what Mastertune does. A big thing to remember is that the tech is the one running the software and letting them use what they like to use, typically gets you better results.
The above statement is not true at all, Mastertune has several more tuning features not in a PV. While the PV can and does tune the bike, it cannot do what Mastertune does. A big thing to remember is that the tech is the one running the software and letting them use what they like to use, typically gets you better results.
#27
01-13-2019, 07:08 AM
Road Warrior
Fair enough. Can you elaborate what those differences are? I would like to know and I’m curious if others would too. Most local dealers in my neck of the woods won’t spend time to change anything but VE tables and AFR. That’s a separate issue, but if there’s more TTS Mastertune offers over WinPV, maybe I would consider TTS Mastertune. Thanks.
#28
01-13-2019, 01:06 PM
Grand HDF Member
Fair enough. Can you elaborate what those differences are? I would like to know and I’m curious if others would too. Most local dealers in my neck of the woods won’t spend time to change anything but VE tables and AFR. That’s a separate issue, but if there’s more TTS Mastertune offers over WinPV, maybe I would consider TTS Mastertune. Thanks.
However, currently I am approaching it differently; it seems to me that there are thousands of guys out there with dynos, but there are comparatively few really good tuners out there (guys like Bob, or The Dyno Difference, etc). So I think my approach is to find the artist I want to do my tune, and then ask them which tuner they prefer to use.
#29
01-13-2019, 01:55 PM
Fair enough. Can you elaborate what those differences are? I would like to know and I’m curious if others would too. Most local dealers in my neck of the woods won’t spend time to change anything but VE tables and AFR. That’s a separate issue, but if there’s more TTS Mastertune offers over WinPV, maybe I would consider TTS Mastertune. Thanks.
#30
01-13-2019, 03:58 PM
Club Member
Interested as well, as I will be in the market when my warranty expires.
However, currently I am approaching it differently; it seems to me that there are thousands of guys out there with dynos, but there are comparatively few really good tuners out there (guys like Bob, or The Dyno Difference, etc). So I think my approach is to find the artist I want to do my tune, and then ask them which tuner they prefer to use.
However, currently I am approaching it differently; it seems to me that there are thousands of guys out there with dynos, but there are comparatively few really good tuners out there (guys like Bob, or The Dyno Difference, etc). So I think my approach is to find the artist I want to do my tune, and then ask them which tuner they prefer to use.