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Lu 06-12-2020 08:14 AM

WM8-22X-E cam
 
There's a new cam Fuel Moto collaborated with Woods on, has anyone installed this on a 107 M8 motor?

At this time, I got a Stage 1 (Arlen Ness Method Clear A/C, S&S MK45, and DynoJet PV from FM), but planning out my Stage 2 this fall (FM 2-1-2 header, MoCo's latest oil pump, maybe auto tuner, and the 22X or 22X-E cam) and would like more info on this 22X-E cam vs the regular WM8-22X.

I noticed that in some charts there is a small dip with the 22X around the 3K-3.5K RPM range, wondering if the 22X-E eliminates that dip. Can't afford a Stage 3 now and I love my S&S MK45s so wondering if it is the 22X cam or the S&S slip-ons. If it is the Slip-ons, wondering if FM Dynamic Exhaust Tuning Inserts would eliminate the dip.


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mjwebb 06-12-2020 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Lu (Post 19186286)
There's a new cam Fuel Moto collaborated with Woods on, has anyone installed this on a 107 M8 motor?

At this time, I got a Stage 1 (Arlen Ness Method Clear A/C, S&S MK45, and DynoJet PV from FM), but planning out my Stage 2 this fall (FM 2-1-2 header, MoCo's latest oil pump, maybe auto tuner, and the 22X or 22X-E cam) and would like more info on this 22X-E cam vs the regular WM8-22X.

I noticed that in some charts there is a small dip with the 22X around the 3K-3.5K RPM range, wondering if the 22X-E eliminates that dip. Can't afford a Stage 3 now and I love my S&S MK45s so wondering if it is the 22X cam or the S&S slip-ons. If it is the Slip-ons, wondering if FM Dynamic Exhaust Tuning Inserts would eliminate the dip.


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did you run this by the experts who designed and developed this yet? and have the exhaust compatibility knowledge and experience as well? I would think that would be the best starting point personally

NorthWestern 06-12-2020 09:26 PM

Have not seen it in a 107, but my buddy was one of the first to get it in a 128 that FM put together. His dyno sheet is on the site. It's a beast, he got me beat by 10 HP, and he loves to remind of that.

Woodsy 06-13-2020 03:37 PM

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This is the torq dip your referring to? My tuner wasn't sure if it's exhaust related or what. I'm thinking the 22XE might be the solution? All the engine mods are noted on the dyno sheet. (yes I'm running the DB reducers in the MK45,s) I can't say I'm unhappy, really not noticeable on the butt dyno, although I've got nothing to compare it to.

UrbanRunner 06-14-2020 01:39 AM

Well, as soon as I hit the 2-year mark I'll be adding these mods and will have my own input, but until then, I'll be following this thread.
  • Vance & Hines - VO2 Naked 71035
  • D&D Touring M8 Billet Cat 2:1
  • Wood Performance WM8-22XE Camshaft
  • Dynojet - Power Vision PV-2 Black w/ Target Tune

HDFBagR 06-15-2020 09:17 AM

The torque dip that you are referring to is usually due to your exhaust system. This happens when you have mufflers with large diameter baffles.
I have the Woods WM8-22X cam installed and have no dip in the torque curve. The torque curve is amazingly flat with 1-3/4 baffles.
On Woods website there is dyno comparison of the 22X and 22XE. The new 22XE gives up a little torque to the 22X below 2500 RPM. Above 2500 RPM the 22XE produces higher torque.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hdf...f91524e53d.jpg

rdc401 06-15-2020 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by HDFBagR (Post 19193922)
The torque dip that you are referring to is usually due to your exhaust system. This happens when you have mufflers with large diameter baffles.
I have the Woods WM8-22X cam installed and have no dip in the torque curve. The torque curve is amazingly flat with 1-3/4 baffles.
On Woods website there is dyno comparison of the 22X and 22XE. The new 22XE gives up a little torque to the 22X below 2500 RPM. Above 2500 RPM the 22XE produces higher torque.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hdf...f91524e53d.jpg

Have’nt paid much attention to this cam,but it really looks good.Think it would work great in my 117 big bore that fuel Moto doesn’t offer anymore

Neal-14 SGS 06-16-2020 07:40 AM

117 cvo
 
Yeah I can't wait to see some form of 117 numbers with this cam! I have an FM appointment in August to get it and other stuff done. Did I mention I can't wait?! Ha!
Hoping for 120/130. I would think that is easily realistic.

2019CVO 06-22-2020 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Neal-14 SGS (Post 19196392)
Yeah I can't wait to see some form of 117 numbers with this cam! I have an FM appointment in August to get it and other stuff done. Did I mention I can't wait?! Ha!
Hoping for 120/130. I would think that is easily realistic.

Well if I can help a little here. My bikes cam (SE498) just took a dump and took my lifters with it. So I have a 117 Stage 3, with a K&N A/C, no head work of injectors, I have Fuelmoto Jackpot 2/1/2 headers with the bung removed. I put in the Woods 22X-E with S&S lifters and lifter bore stabilizers and Quickie pushrods. I also just switched out my Screaming Eagle (older 2017 model) slip-ons for Fuelmoto Hi Roller 4" slip-ons. I don't know the size of the baffle though sorry. My pulls before this were 121hp and 127tq with a Thundermax. I don't have another dyno run as he's incredibly backed up now but I took the bike in and a few days later got it back out. WOW, Holy Crap, Geezum Crow, any other words you can put together. This bike is way better now. Pull hard with my wife and the tour pack on in 6th right around cars. I now know the difference a package works now. I may have stumbled on something but man I can't wait to get a pull on this.

teedoff65 06-22-2020 01:27 PM

Are you running your MK 45's with the DB reducers out? I definitely felt a seat of the pants difference with them out versus them in. You lose just a touch of the exhaust note, but not enough to sacrifice that torque bump.


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