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Old 05-25-2017, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VDeuce
Shows signs of galling, but I've seen MUCH worse than that. Can't keep up with all the comp changes within the past few years. Yours have the oiling tray in the primary cover and the wafer bearing?
Didn't look at the inside of my primary cover, it's not the factory cover, it's the wrinkle black cover from HD. By wafer bearing do you mean the flat roller needle bearing between the two washers?
 
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You have the latest Comp design and that comp itself looks normal; however, that doesn't mean the springs are in good shape. I forget the specs, but you need to check stack height.

When you put the comp back together, torque the T70 to 180-200 Foot pounds. Might solve your problem...
 

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I ordered a Baker compensator. Just seeing those two rough cast parts grinding away at each other tells me that's got to be making some noise. What a **** design this is, very disappointed to see this is the best Harley can do.
 
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I had the same exact issue and the fix was a simple washer that the dealer installed. This is a known issue for the 14's with a service bulletin out on it.
 
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I had the same exact issue and the fix was a simple washer that the dealer installed. This is a known issue for the 14's with a service bulletin out on it.
Yeah I know the Belleville washers can be shimmed, but after seeing the galling and pitting on the ramps of the helix, I'll replace it with a better made unit. No wonder these bikes are so damn noisy, Harley can't even bother to machine two surfaces that ride on each other every second the motor is running.
 
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Yeah I know the Belleville washers can be shimmed, but after seeing the galling and pitting on the ramps of the helix, I'll replace it with a better made unit. No wonder these bikes are so damn noisy, Harley can't even bother to machine two surfaces that ride on each other every second the motor is running.
Rodger that!
 
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If it turns out to be the comp, then I would recommend installing the Baker comp and their Attitude Adjuster (manual primary chain adjuster that eliminates over-tightening of the chain.

Ditch that MOCO crap and install top quality American-made parts that last and work as advertised. I did, and I couldn't be happier with the results.
 
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Please tell me this is a fluke and that my compensator is supposed to have machined ramps on the helix. And not that HD thought rough, raw metal on metal was a good idea for two parts that move against each other constantly. Did I get a **** compensator that snuck through quality control???? lol
So, ya want me to lie to ya? OK! "That comp is a mechanical marvel that never gives trouble or fails prematurely. It's a HUGE improvement over the ones that came in the pre-twin cam motors which were a constant problem and wore out all the time."

How's that?
 

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Originally Posted by jpooch00
If it turns out to be the comp, then I would recommend installing the Baker comp and their Attitude Adjuster (manual primary chain adjuster that eliminates over-tightening of the chain.

Ditch that MOCO crap and install top quality American-made parts that last and work as advertised. I did, and I couldn't be happier with the results.
I was going to do the attitude adjuster, but when I pulled mine apart my chain was not overtight, so it'll stay for now at least. Maybe next year I'll swap it out for the manual.
 
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to me, it like your comp is not getting oil sprayed on it, thusly the galling. Make sure your crinkled primary cover has the 'cast in' ( all '14 or newer primary covers have this mod ) oil diverter. The diverter helps to 'sling' oil from the primary reservoir onto the comp as the chain spins.
 


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