Originally Posted by jockotwin

Have they considered the thermostat as the problem?

Originally Posted by Watchfuliz

Ok, lots of opinion here as is always and lots of experts. Most without data to back up what they say....sorry, I am not trying to pick a fight here.


I had a pump failure two weeks ago on my 15 Limited and was told by the dealer shop manager to just ride it over. 15 miles. I have a Powervision mounted on my bike and watched the temps as I rode over, all city traffic, and the engine temp climbed up to 267 and held steady there all the way to the dealership. My oil temp got up to 245 during that ride. Out of warranty it cost me $600 to get fixed and since I was leaving on a trip the next day and running out of time I let them fix it for me. I live in north Louisiana and the temps for that day was running in the upper 80's,


One week later while in Colorado on our trip my buds bike, 2016 Roadglide CVO, had a water pump failure near Steamboat Springs. After a call to the Grand Junction HD he was told to ride it in. 100 miles later and 100* temps on hwy 70 we pulled into the dealer. His oil temp was 275. He didn't have the PV so we couldn't watch his engine temp. Long story short, if you don't flog it and try to run 80 mph for hours, it will run fine and doesn't hurt anything other than it will eventually break down the oil. I would not joy ride it for days either. No limp mode or anything like that happens. You get the lights on the dash. Check engine light and high temp light and lots of heat. If you check the codes it will show a P1019 code ECT Difference (high temp). Which means an exceeding temperature difference between the coolant and the engine temperature. When the coolant and the engine temperature has a difference that exceeds a set amount, not sure the setting here, it trips the temp light and check engine light.


His bike was repaired and like mine has run great. We made it back to Louisiana without any more issues. That being said I believe we have a real problem with these. I had 26K on a 2.5 year old bike when mine failed. His is just over 2 years old with 17k on it. That should not be happening and I think Harley needs to address this issue. I for one do not want to have to buy a new water pump every couple of years.

Originally Posted by harleyboy63401

My experience...just got home from the Black Hills....While riding needles highway we stopped at a look out...bike leaning to the left extra on slopped ground...come back to it and fluid is running on ground....I said screw it and just continued to ride...no alarms or issues. Checked it that night after cooling and very little level left in the tank. I decided to ride it without adding water or trying to find Harley fluid. I rode home 1000 miles riding 75 MPH without any issues.
Not sure what happened...it was warm that day with temps around 88 and running 25 mph. Bike was hot and fans seemed to run as before and as needed.

My dealer doesn't really have a qualified tech that I trust.....what do you all think is happening??

Thanks!!