Different Bike, Same Size Motor, Changing Oils?
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Different Bike, Same Size Motor, Changing Oils?
Traded my '14 Street Bob in for a '12 Road Glide Custom. Same 103.
I always used Mobil 1 Synth 20w 50 in the motor and the primary, with BelRay 75/140 in the trans. I had some clutch slippage but nothing majorly out of line.
I've been reading that the clutch doesn't really even need a synthetic, that HD Syn3 is more than adequate and will probably completely eliminate the slipping.
Anyone else notice slight slipping when using synthetic in the primary? And if you switched to a blend and it went away?
I still plan on using the Mobil 1 synth for the motor and the BelRay for the trans.
I always used Mobil 1 Synth 20w 50 in the motor and the primary, with BelRay 75/140 in the trans. I had some clutch slippage but nothing majorly out of line.
I've been reading that the clutch doesn't really even need a synthetic, that HD Syn3 is more than adequate and will probably completely eliminate the slipping.
Anyone else notice slight slipping when using synthetic in the primary? And if you switched to a blend and it went away?
I still plan on using the Mobil 1 synth for the motor and the BelRay for the trans.
#3
There are so many options available to us there is no simple answer. I've never used any synth in my primary, just good ole H-D primary oil - which has been fine for donkey's years!
#4
For me, any oil that is going to lubricate my clutch is going to be JASO MA/MA2 certified. JASO is strict, its focus is MOTORCYCLE clutch performance, and if an oil can't meet JASO, I won't use it.
Having said that, give Mobile1 Racing 4T (10w40 or 15w50) a try in your primary.
PS> Recently had a Japanese bike with terrible clutch slippage...oil was 10w40 as recommended, but it was not JASO...changed out to Racing 4T and it only slipped at high RPM..ran the bike ~50 miles, changed oil again...no more clutch slippage at any RPM...100% of the oil never drains out...when switching oils, it takes at least 2 changes to get near 100% of the oil being the new oil.
Having said that, give Mobile1 Racing 4T (10w40 or 15w50) a try in your primary.
PS> Recently had a Japanese bike with terrible clutch slippage...oil was 10w40 as recommended, but it was not JASO...changed out to Racing 4T and it only slipped at high RPM..ran the bike ~50 miles, changed oil again...no more clutch slippage at any RPM...100% of the oil never drains out...when switching oils, it takes at least 2 changes to get near 100% of the oil being the new oil.
Last edited by HDSlimJim; 12-02-2017 at 10:16 PM.
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The jaso ma/ma2 rating is what to look for.With the higher torque motors you will have problems with any oil that has friction modifiers in it.Been using mobile 1 4t racing 10-40 for many years in my primaries on several different bikes and have never had a clutch slip.
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The JASO rating MA/MA2 is a motor oil only rating for wet clutch performance.
If you purchase a primary/wet clutch specific product, it will not have this rating
on the label, it just says its for a wet clutch/primary application.
Ken
If you purchase a primary/wet clutch specific product, it will not have this rating
on the label, it just says its for a wet clutch/primary application.
Ken
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I just used HD stuff until I installed a Barnett clutch, Barnett recommended Redline... they must have shares in Redline because HOLY Fork... it’s expensive...
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Example...Amsoil sells a Primary specific product...and lookee here...it's JASO MA/MA2 rated.
AMSOIL V-Twin Synthetic Primary Fluid
https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g3302.pdf
JASO is a friction test concerning motorcycle clutches...doesn't matter if the bike is wet or 3 hole...JASO is JASO...and if your clutch oil isn't JASO...especially in high torque bikes, you don't have the optimal fluid in play...
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I sit corrected, but I would find it hard to believe a manufacture of "primary/wet clutch specific oil would make/sell a product that would cause clutch issues.
Just my .02 cents
Ken
Just my .02 cents
Ken