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Different Bike, Same Size Motor, Changing Oils?

 
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Old 03-24-2016, 03:18 PM
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Traded my '14 Street Bob in for a '12 Road Glide Custom. Same 103.

I always used Mobil 1 Synth 20w 50 in the motor and the primary, with BelRay 75/140 in the trans. I had some clutch slippage but nothing majorly out of line.

I've been reading that the clutch doesn't really even need a synthetic, that HD Syn3 is more than adequate and will probably completely eliminate the slipping.

Anyone else notice slight slipping when using synthetic in the primary? And if you switched to a blend and it went away?

I still plan on using the Mobil 1 synth for the motor and the BelRay for the trans.
 
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I use Shell Rotella syn in my primary & engine with no problems
 
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There are so many options available to us there is no simple answer. I've never used any synth in my primary, just good ole H-D primary oil - which has been fine for donkey's years!
 
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For me, any oil that is going to lubricate my clutch is going to be JASO MA/MA2 certified. JASO is strict, its focus is MOTORCYCLE clutch performance, and if an oil can't meet JASO, I won't use it.

Having said that, give Mobile1 Racing 4T (10w40 or 15w50) a try in your primary.

PS> Recently had a Japanese bike with terrible clutch slippage...oil was 10w40 as recommended, but it was not JASO...changed out to Racing 4T and it only slipped at high RPM..ran the bike ~50 miles, changed oil again...no more clutch slippage at any RPM...100% of the oil never drains out...when switching oils, it takes at least 2 changes to get near 100% of the oil being the new oil.
 

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I would just used the SYN3 in the primary - should never be a problem.
 
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The jaso ma/ma2 rating is what to look for.With the higher torque motors you will have problems with any oil that has friction modifiers in it.Been using mobile 1 4t racing 10-40 for many years in my primaries on several different bikes and have never had a clutch slip.
 
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The JASO rating MA/MA2 is a motor oil only rating for wet clutch performance.

If you purchase a primary/wet clutch specific product, it will not have this rating

on the label, it just says its for a wet clutch/primary application.

Ken
 
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I just used HD stuff until I installed a Barnett clutch, Barnett recommended Redline... they must have shares in Redline because HOLY Fork... it’s expensive...
 
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Originally Posted by y22c
The JASO rating MA/MA2 is a motor oil only rating for wet clutch performance.

If you purchase a primary/wet clutch specific product, it will not have this rating

on the label, it just says its for a wet clutch/primary application.

Ken
Sorry sir, but nope..."It will not have this (JASO) rating" because....It can't meet the standard...not because it's a primary specific product.

Example...Amsoil sells a Primary specific product...and lookee here...it's JASO MA/MA2 rated.

AMSOIL V-Twin Synthetic Primary Fluid
https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g3302.pdf

JASO is a friction test concerning motorcycle clutches...doesn't matter if the bike is wet or 3 hole...JASO is JASO...and if your clutch oil isn't JASO...especially in high torque bikes, you don't have the optimal fluid in play...
 
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:39 AM
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I sit corrected, but I would find it hard to believe a manufacture of "primary/wet clutch specific oil would make/sell a product that would cause clutch issues.

Just my .02 cents

Ken
 

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